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Post by HoM on Sept 21, 2005 8:38:13 GMT -5
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Post by dragonbat on Sept 21, 2005 10:51:51 GMT -5
Well, if part of what we're doing is 'fixing' the heroes, there are a few 'broken/overused' villains in the DCU that could use a bit of renovation. Hush under Loeb was awesome, but he's just being done to death and not well in GK. If written properly (and I'm not saying I'm up to it, I'm just saying if he were) he could be an extremely formidable foe for any hero. He's a master manipulater, and a long-term planner.
Bane is another one--great in Knightfall, a joke thereafter. Suppose we stopped laughing, and handled him properly.
I really go for the psychological over the physical. Throw in Scarecrow and Hugo Strange. Also, Cornelius Stirk.
Since we've got two Bat-Titles, there's really no point in 'suggesting' Joker, because we all know he's going to be there anyway! Deservedly! Here's hoping I never have to use him, though... because he's one of the hardest characters to write. I feel like if I think I've got a handle on defining/finding his voice, I missed the point.
I'm enjoying Cheshire, in VU. If Lian Harper exists in the DC2, she's probably already a given as well.
Also, face it: we KNOW certain villains are going to be here, just because they're so iconic. Luthor. Catwoman (though whether as villain, antihero, or hero depends on what you're aiming for.) Darkseid.
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Post by HoM on Sept 21, 2005 10:58:25 GMT -5
I love Bane.
You'll see.
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Post by darkknightdetec on Sept 21, 2005 13:45:56 GMT -5
I agree with dragonbat. Hush would be awsome for DC2, but the problem is, we don't even know his true identity (or do we?) Hush, while I don't think Lieberman's writing is as bad as so many people think, is being overused in GK, and I think it's time Lieberman finally wraps up his ten arc long Hush saga.
Joker is the inevitable, but Riddler would be cool too.
Scarecrow, Hugo Strange, Poison Ivy, the Penguin, all good choices too.
As you can see, I'm mostly a Batman fan, but for Superman Darkseid, Luthor, Bizzaro, and Brainiac would be cool.
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Post by HoM on Sept 21, 2005 15:34:32 GMT -5
I love Riddler.
You'll see.
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Post by darkknightdetec on Sept 21, 2005 18:56:59 GMT -5
I love Riddler. You'll see. Cool, we're going to have a Riddler story! |
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Post by HoM on Sept 24, 2005 15:42:23 GMT -5
Also, a Bane story (if you didnt pick that up  ) and i have a love for Cornelius Stirk... You'll see. |
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Post by Apprentice on Sept 26, 2005 1:41:28 GMT -5
I'd love to see Lady Shiva, definitely!
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Post by HoM on Sept 26, 2005 3:02:25 GMT -5
hehaHAHAHHAHHAAHAHHA
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Post by batman123 on Oct 2, 2005 20:34:11 GMT -5
Ok let me see....
Cain
Harley Quinn ( yeah I like her so what)
Black Mask
I'd really like to see Talia and Ra's Al Ghul as well
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Post by oracle0128 on Oct 4, 2005 14:24:33 GMT -5
Hmmm....
I'd love to see:
Harley Quinn. Solo without the Joker.
Nyssa. We really need to do something with this amazing character.
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Post by HoM on Oct 4, 2005 14:40:46 GMT -5
Nout wrong with liking fantastic characters guys!
But Nyssa... I know OF her, just not got anything with her in...
I know that shes Ra's daughter... But I think we need to breath some life into the original characters first, THEN reinvigorate legacy characters.
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Post by Dr Dread on Oct 14, 2005 15:58:08 GMT -5
Hmmm... I would've said Deathstroke the Terminator about a year ago, but he's been getting mucha love from DC since Identity Crisis.
Maybe Peacebringer and his talking(?) bucket.. uh, I mean helmet!
Bronze Tiger would also be a neat character to see return in top form (maybe still brainwashed by the League of Assassins).
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Post by HoM on Oct 15, 2005 14:25:28 GMT -5
BRONZE TIGER!!!
heHEHAHAhaHAHAHEHAHAHAhaehehAHA!
ok. Batman #3. Watch out.
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Post by Dr Dread on Oct 16, 2005 20:21:34 GMT -5
BRONZE TIGER!!! heHEHAHAhaHAHAHEHAHAHAhaehehAHA! ok. Batman #3. Watch out. Really?? Oh man, I've got to do the cover for that! |
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Post by marcusbucklin on Oct 25, 2005 8:26:42 GMT -5
I haven't read every issue yet, so I am sorry if I'm beating any dead horses here...
Lobo (as a villain)
The Mikado
Lady Shiva (as a real deal villain)
King Snake and Lynx (I loved the Robin mini-series)
Major Force (this guy should be a premiere player)
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Post by dragonbat on Oct 30, 2005 9:44:38 GMT -5
Well, my Elseworld's tale (which is basically a DCU-continuity what-if) includes as villains:
Riddler (as a lightweight pre-revamp joke who's inserted mainly for comedy relief as a second-stringer. Elseworlds, remember?)
Cornelius Stirk in his Tec 592-3 incarnation, not the drooling caricature he later became in Knightfall
Black Mask as he appears in Batman today
Hush mainly as he was depicted under Loeb, with a few slight nods to what he's done under Leiberman, but mainly the Loeb portrayal.
And, as antagonists--not outright villains, but if you're cheering these two, I'm doing them wrong (it's okay if you don't hate 'em, I tried to flesh them out a bit more than the DCU has done. This made them slightly more sympathetic...): Commissioner Mike Akins and Det. Romy Chandler.
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Post by giantevilhead on Oct 30, 2005 15:12:38 GMT -5
Darkseid
General Zod
Clayface (Matt Hagan)
Mr. Freeze
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Post by brigante133 on Oct 30, 2005 16:30:33 GMT -5
crazy quilt and doctor spectro, they make a lovely couple
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Post by Brandon on Oct 30, 2005 16:32:31 GMT -5
You're in luck, we've already got a Zod!
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Post by Brandon on Oct 30, 2005 16:34:16 GMT -5
crazy quilt and doctor spectro, they make a lovely couple OH sure, make fun of Dr. Spectro now while you can.  |
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Post by brigante133 on Oct 30, 2005 16:34:55 GMT -5
i will
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Post by Brandon on Oct 30, 2005 16:40:42 GMT -5
It's easy to poke fun at some of the older DC characters. If you want to impress me show me how they can be cool and interesting again.  |
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Post by brigante133 on Oct 30, 2005 17:36:11 GMT -5
good thing i dont aim to impress
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Post by Brandon on Oct 30, 2005 19:12:08 GMT -5
Somehow when I typed that I knew you'd take issue with it. Semantics aside, you know what my point was. Catman was pretty much a joke for a few decades before someone decided he could be cool.
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Post by HoM on Oct 31, 2005 3:09:26 GMT -5
It's easy to poke fun at some of the older DC characters. If you want to impress me show me how they can be cool and interesting again. I love these posts. Because I think I can impress you like this... |
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Post by Dr Dread on Oct 31, 2005 15:59:59 GMT -5
Somehow when I typed that I knew you'd take issue with it. Semantics aside, you know what my point was. Catman was pretty much a joke for a few decades before someone decided he could be cool. Another example is Doctor Light, who's been a joke for years. They explained why and now he packs a big punch. |
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Post by brigante133 on Oct 31, 2005 16:35:19 GMT -5
well then ill have crazy quilt rape someone, thatll solve it for sure. ;D
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Post by HoM on Oct 31, 2005 16:36:34 GMT -5
Ooo! And that all explains why hes such a rubbish character!
"He raped someone..."
*slaps head*
"Now his rubbishness makes sense..."
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Post by brigante133 on Oct 31, 2005 17:51:56 GMT -5
 okay crazy quilt is a serial killer that takes patches of his victims skin and (Gasp) makes a quilt that he rubs on his nude body after he kills. this is how he gets his jollies. he also has a deadskin mask.... no more remaging old characters for me. |
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) and i have a love for Cornelius Stirk... You'll see.
