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Post by Admin on Dec 19, 2009 18:36:09 GMT -5
Please let us know what you think!
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Post by HoM on Dec 20, 2009 7:25:20 GMT -5
Zandia, Zandia, Zandia, all I'm hearing is Zandia, and I'm loving it! Great to see these characters converging toward each other, and the ties toward New Outsiders are showing strong! This arc promises to be a great one, and it's wonderful to see characters you wouldn't normally think to interact interacting! Azrael is growing on me like no one else should, and I can't wait to see where you're taking them. Great work, Don.
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Post by ryokowerx on Dec 20, 2009 14:55:22 GMT -5
And while Azrael is growing on Charlie, I'm just eating up any and all of the Midnight & Trin Dee action you're serving up! You're quickly approaching the levels of attachment with them as you did with Speed and Harriet (and that's no small compliment). I loved the scene where the two are jumping from their car to the other... and, may I add, that I'm intrigued by this Nicodemus and how he is going to tie into everything.
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Post by lissilambe on Dec 21, 2009 10:40:16 GMT -5
It's wonderful to hear that so many different elements are attracting different people. There are so many toys in the Danger Trail era anyway, but with this crossover, I'm not sure I can count all the elements at play. It's a big, sprawling storyline, spread over two groups of heroes, two different prophecies and two times, as well as all over the globe, so bringing it all together into a cohesive whole is tough. It's all worth it when you get people finding things they particularly love while enjoying the story.
Some of the history of Zandia will be getting explored as we see how it's reached its present-day conditions, and how the Church of Blood has achieved its prominence there and elsewhere. As for our pseudo-Azrael, Walter, I'm glad you're enjoying him, Charlie. He's an interesting character: kind of dull, very blunt and straight-forward, but he's not a simple person, and I hope you enjoy his arc.
As for James, Midnight and Trin are a great couple. I like the odd couples, and its fun to write them while Harriet is missing and Speed searches for her. Their arc has for some difficult times ahead, so be prepared. Hope to see you all over at New Outsider #48 for part three, and then back here for what's going to be a very, very big part four.
Take care
Don
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Post by mockingbird on Dec 22, 2009 15:58:04 GMT -5
hee, I agree, Midnight and Trin are being very awesome right now. Eel's growing on me strongly, too. I always find myself chuckling at his jokes, while understanding exactly why they're not funny to any of the other characters.
The story is just enormous and i'm in awe of what you can put together. Should be fascinating to see what happens next
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Post by lissilambe on Dec 23, 2009 12:04:01 GMT -5
Eel's interesting to write for, being one of those people I don't need to watch so carefully in what he says. Glad you're enjoying his humor, and the romance between Midnight and Trin. More exciting action to come, so make sure you're checking out the whole crossover.
Take care
Don
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Post by a2uton on Dec 24, 2009 0:57:31 GMT -5
Like some others I'm waiting to see how you bring all the various elements together. What I'm still not sure of is if the Falkenstein Affair ties in to this story arc or did you just use it to pad the series? Right now it looks like that particular element of the story was simply filler to round out part one of this arc. If that is indeed the case I must admit to being somewhat dissapointed with the meaningless of that episode in the middle of this adventure. Well, perhaps you do have a plan.
I really didn't comment on the previous issue because it took me some time to catch up with the site as i've been busy. I was going to comment on your penchant for turning this series into a mini Wold/Newton site but decided to hold off most of my comments. Besides I suppose you can always argue that since Fox was bought by upstart Charlton in the late Fourties there is an outside chance the Eagle and his rogues gallery could be part of the DCU. I just feel its a little bit of a cheat when you crossover universes though I realise these days DC is guilty of it as well.
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Post by lissilambe on Dec 24, 2009 11:38:16 GMT -5
Well, The Falkenstein Affair was intended to be a single issue story, but it ran a bit long, and I had to fit the last third or so of the story in among the rest of the series. Because of the tight planning, I couldn't really push the other issue back, so I just wrapped them in through the next two issues. Does it tie into the Affairs of Blood and Fate crossover? Not at all? Was it filler? Well, no moreso than any other story is filler in a series; it's escapist adventure with wonderful Golden Age characters, and it does serve a purpose later down the road, providing me a chance to continue using the diabolical Doctor Tock. So I don't view it as padding. Sorry you do. As for the use of other characters, again, sorry you view it as a cheat. I was looking for someone to give to Black Beauty for a henchman, and stumbled over the Gimp and his design was great. I mean, a sword for a leg? That's awesome. Is he DC? Not in teh slightest, but since he's also doubtless public domain by now, I didn't see the harm in such a minor figure being slipped in. Sun Koh? I used him because I like Doc Savage and am fascinated with the German version, and could use him instead of the Man of Bronce and have some fun with it. I think that's the key here: the series is meant to be fun, and exciting, and I might snatch up an outside character here or there if it doesn't impact the overall feel of the DCU (I'd never use Spider-Man, or pull in Fin Fang Foom, or Sun Girl, or the Blonde Phantom), so if you don't like that, and feel it's a cheat, then you'll have to decide if you can put up with the series. So far, you've not complained about Avery Updike, so I guess all is not totally lost.  Thanks for the comments, and here's hoping you enjoy the crossover! Take care Don |
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Post by a2uton on Dec 28, 2009 0:23:44 GMT -5
Hindsite is always 20/20. I feel you would have been better served to split part one of this arc into two. That is finish off the Falkenstein adventure and then start a backup story with this arc instead of setting the Falkenstein Affair in the middle of this. Once again, my opinion. As for Avery Updike I wasn't aware I was suppossed to be concerned about him although the name did seem familiar. After googling him it appears you have yet another cross universe character so my comment about you turning this into a Wold/Newton site seems even more accurate. I also have my suspicions as to who Nicodemus may turn out to be.
My major concern is that when a site purports to be a site featuring DCU characters it should restrict itself mainly to characters from that universe. An overuse of other universe's characters seems to me to be breaking that rule.
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Post by mockingbird on Dec 28, 2009 12:59:13 GMT -5
A2uton, (apologies for not knowing if you go by your real name here), I think you'd have a point if characters like the Gimp and Avery were the stars of the story, or very significant secondary characters. Or if other authors were habitually using characters from other franchises. But I can't see how using two minor characters in minor supporting roles in a single pulp series in the entire site doesn't qualify as restricting ourselves mainly to DC characters. I think you might be overreacting a bit.
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Post by HoM on Dec 28, 2009 13:15:01 GMT -5
A2uton, (apologies for not knowing if you go by your real name here), I think you'd have a point if characters like the Gimp and Avery were the stars of the story, or very significant secondary characters. Or if other authors were habitually using characters from other franchises. But I can't see how using two minor characters in minor supporting roles in a single pulp series in the entire site doesn't qualify as restricting ourselves mainly to DC characters. I think you might be overreacting a bit. Seconded. I'm a fan of this series and it doesn't take me out of the story to have some minor characters from other publishers featured, and I'm sure some of the other readers on site agree. It's not like Wolverine is running around in the series, and these other characters do have tenuous, working links to DC. If you don't like reading the really layered mythology that Don is writing, then my only suggestion to you is that you stop reading, to be fair. |
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Post by lissilambe on Dec 29, 2009 14:49:20 GMT -5
Indeed, hindisight is 20/20. To be honest, I wasn't totally satisfied with how the Falkenstein story tapered off at the end, and it should have been a dedicated two-parter. But as I mentioned, I was on a schedule with the crossover coming up with New Outsiders, and I let things slip and so it came out the way it did. Hopefully I can keep things tighter in the future.
As for the character issue, I'm sorry that this seems to be a sticking point for you. Really, I think you're overthinking this a bit, but that's your prerogative too. I don't think of the Gimp as the same one from an obscure by any standards Forties comic, I just saw his design in a site of such concepts and went "I want to use that". Avery Updike is an Easter egg for MASH fans. I'll be pulling back on some of those figures in the upcoming issues anyway, since I've got more than enough cast to play with, but the main figures are the important ones, and such small elements I would hope don't detract so badly from the series that they speak ill of it, or the DC2/3 sites and community in general.
Take care
Don
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