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Post by Romans Empire on Jul 12, 2006 22:24:02 GMT -5
Inspired by Dr. Dreads commentary piece regarding his arc on Adventures of Superman (issues 6-8), I thought it would be fun to jot down some of the thought process that went into the series so far, issue by issue. This in no way is meant to be seen as me taking myself or what I have written seriously. What it is meant to show is how much fun I have had writing this series.
If you have enjoyed reading any or all of this series you might enjoy the behind the scenes look at what it took to bring each issue together and some of the story behind the story....
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Post by Romans Empire on Sept 26, 2006 18:24:17 GMT -5
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Post by Romans Empire on Sept 26, 2006 18:26:37 GMT -5
Suicide Squad-Writers commentary Issue 0: "Bang and Blame, Prologue: The Hook" Written by John Elbe Cover by Jim Dufresne and Scott Kruger Edited by David Charlton *All commentary in bold
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Post by Romans Empire on Sept 26, 2006 18:29:40 GMT -5
I made an unconscious decision early on that all SS issues and story arc titles would have names of songs as their titles. I don’t know why I decided this, but it has turned out to be fun. Sometimes I end up picking a song title long before I begin a particular issue just based on what I think sounds like it would fit.
SONG: Bang and Blame ARTIST: R.E.M. ALBUM: Monster (1994) I choose this song for the story arc once I decided that someone would die and then the blame game would begin, plus it is a favorite of mine and too cool not to use.
SONG: Hook ARTIST: Blues Traveler ALBUM: Four (1994) The original title of this issue was ‘The Pitch’ due to the fact that Amanda was pitching the Squad idea. Ultimately I choose The Hook instead because I pictured Waller dangling a fishing line over the Presidents mouth.
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Post by Romans Empire on Sept 26, 2006 18:30:56 GMT -5
“There are few better measures of the concern a society has for its individual members and its own well being than the way it handles criminals.”-Ramsey Clark
I was looking for quotes about villains when I came across this particular one that I thought fit. The interesting thing here isn’t the quote necessarily but the person who said it: Ramsey Clark is lawyer and political activist . He worked for the U.S. Department of Justice as Attorney General under President Lyndon B. Johnson. He later became better known for his continuing advocacy on behalf of left leaning political causes, and his role as defense attorney in the trials of controversial figures such as David Koresh and Saddam Hussein.
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Post by Romans Empire on Sept 26, 2006 18:33:32 GMT -5
Present Day: Washington D.C. - An Undisclosed room in the white house.
A man walked into the room, handed the President a file, and sat down. "It’s done, Mr. President,” he said. “The Suicide Squad is dead. The file on them is closed."
"And Waller?" The President asked.
"Waller was confirmed dead last night, Sir." The man replied, “And anyone else associated with her and or the Squad is either dead, or in deep hiding"
"Well," the president said as he leaned back in his chair, pushing the file across the desk in front of him. “I told her that the success of the squad would depend on her ability to be a team player."
"You can't win them all, Sir." the man sighed as he got up and headed towards the door.
"Eiling." the President said, standing up and walking toward the man.
"Yes Sir?"
"Sorry about your lose."
"It was a set back, Sir. But we will be up and running again in no time." Eiling headed out the door. Once outside, he followed a narrow path that lead to a limousine parked along side the road. Another man was standing next to the limo, waiting for him.
"You finished briefing the President so soon, General?" the man asked taking a step away from the limo.
"Well there wasn't much to say. Everything was in my report." General Wade Eiling said as he approached the man and stood next to him. "Everything? Even the senseless deaths of American heroes?"
"Heroes huh?" General Eiling clinched his teeth "Steel, we are talking about thieves, murderers and criminals; not heroes. The day people like that become heroes is the day I resign." Sarge Steel just smiled at him. Eiling looked at him for another few seconds and then opened the back door of the limo. "And another thing...." He started to say as he got in the limo but before he had a chance to finish his sentence, Steel shut the door and the limo drove off. Sarge Steel took his cell phone out of his pocket and dialed a number. Someone on the other end picked up.
"Now it’s finished, Sir." Steel said and then hung up.
This was the first scene I wrote after I pitched the SS idea to David back in November ’05. I always thought that beginning a story at the end was cool. Was this a truly original scene? No! But I was inspired by classic tales that showed the heroes either in peril or ‘dead’ then the story flashed back to see how they got themselves in the current situation. I was happy that when the final scene was written months later, that it looped perfectly back into this epilogue because once this came out in February there was no way to change it once this scene was repeated in issue #3.
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Post by Romans Empire on Sept 26, 2006 18:34:53 GMT -5
Six weeks ago: Las Vegas, Nevada. 3:17 a.m.
Richard Flagg Jr. got out of bed quietly so as not to wake the woman lying next to him. He fumbled in the dark to find his pants that were lying on the floor next to the bed. After putting them on, he headed out onto the patio of the third floor hotel room. He barely noticed how warm and dry the air was as he lit his cigarette. When the man sitting on a chair in the dark corner of the patio spoke, it didn’t surprise Rick.
"Mama Waller says its time to come home Flagg" the man said as he too lit a cigarette.
"The Wall sent you all this way out here to tell me that Lawton?" Rick replied, unfazed.
"No. I volunteered. I had something’s to do in Sin City before we get back to work."
The reason Deadshot was in Vegas was going to be explored at some point because I wanted to tie him into the New Outsiders some how. That’s something that never really panned out.
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Post by Romans Empire on Sept 26, 2006 18:35:58 GMT -5
"Work. Right.” Rick grunted. “Well, message delivered. Tell Waller next time to call me if she needs me."
"Next time, don't disappear without telling anyone where you are going.” Floyd Lawton said as he threw his cigarette out over the balcony. "Oh, and Flagg, tell Ms. Eve Eden" Lawton gestured with his head towards the woman still sleeping in the bed, “Waller wants her on this one too."
"Get out of here Deadshot, before I shoot the messenger." Rick snapped as he took another drag of his cigarette. Deadshot climbed down the balcony and disappeared into the night.
Rick Flagg knew his vacation was over. He had led the Suicide Squad on their first three missions, five members killed in action, two injured, and one lost in action. So far, Amanda Waller’s experiment of using convicts and costume criminals hadn’t exactly been a smashing success. It also hadn’t been a complete failure either. If you want to call using criminals to do the governments dirty work, where everyone one is expendable, a win-win situation. Rick followed orders. He worked with whom he was told; it wasn’t up to him to decide what was acceptable or who was expendable.
Since I wanted to establish a little history for the Squad I wanted to make sure that they had been on a few missions before this story took place. Mentioning that a member of the Squad went missing on a mission was another sub-plot that was going to be explored later but I was never able to fit it in anywhere. It wasn’t till recently that I figured out that I could use that little bit of back-story in the SS Annual that comes out in Nov ’06 making it seem like it was planned all along!
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Post by Romans Empire on Sept 26, 2006 18:37:02 GMT -5
Rick Flagg had spent his entire life following orders. He ate his vegetables when his mother told him to as a child. He did his best in sports just like his Father told him to. He got good grades and excelled in everything he was expected to excel at. It was decided for him that he would be a great asset to his country by following in his father’s footsteps and pursuing a career in the military. On the day after graduation, he walked into the local recruiting office and signed up. A week later, his mother left his father. She claimed that he put his career ahead of his family. She was devastated that Rick chose the same career path. Like everything else in Rick’s life up to that point, it wasn’t a choice he was making. He was the only one that could see that he would be a better soldier then he had been a son.
When I decided to tell a SS tale I knew within seconds that four characters had to be involved, Amanda Waller, Rick Flagg, Nightshade, and Deadshot. No one had plans for Waller and Nightshade in the DC2, so I was good there. I found out early on that Scott was using Rick Flagg in his Tales Of The Green Lantern title. It was worked out that he was using Sr. so I had free reign on using his son. That’s why I wrote his back-story to fit into Scott’s story.
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Post by Romans Empire on Sept 26, 2006 18:37:45 GMT -5
After four years in the Air force, an unnamed agency within the government recruited Rick to work for them. He led several undercover missions, one of which was infiltrating and spying on a group called the Forgotten Heroes. Things didn’t turn out so well but Rick completed his mission like he was ordered to. Four months after the disaster with the Forgotten Heroes, Rick was recruited to serve as leader to the newly formed Suicide Squad. That was six months and three missions ago. Rick took one last drag of his cigarette and pitched it over the balcony. It was time to go back to work.
Another thing I decided early on was I wanted to stay true to the original origins of characters as much as possible. I think one of the goals at DC2 is to tell stories that aren't hampered by years of continuity. Give everyone a fresh start but not alter their origins too much or change what makes them a character. The freedom I have with some of these characters that are in the Squad is, their origins aren't as well known so they can be tweaked to fit the story's better.
In the pre-crisis DC universe, Rick Flagg was a member of the Forgotten Heroes and group and only appeared a handful a times and then literally forgotten after Crisis in 1985. I knew I wanted to explore this further in the next story arc. Little did I know at the time that this would be one of worst things I ever decided to do story wise. My first mistake would be seen in the following issue.
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Post by Romans Empire on Sept 26, 2006 18:38:37 GMT -5
Today, there are ninety-four federal and more than one thousand state prisons throughout the U.S. with inmates nearly topping out at two million. Six of these prisons are Super Maximum Security Prisons. Of those six, only one is an Administrative Maximum (or ADMAX for short) and it is located in Florence Colorado. Built in 1989, this 562-bed facility is located on thirty-seven acres. The design team was challenged to meet the extensive program and highest security parameters set by the Federal Bureau of Prisons and yet present an image appropriate and conducive to the local architecture.
The original Suicide Squad series was set in Louisiana at Belle Reve. Since I was writing this shortly after Hurricane Katrina I felt a little uneasy about using the same location. Upon research I discovered that the only ADMAX prison in the U.S. was indeed in Florence Colorado. Since that was right in my own backyard I thought that it would be the perfect choice.
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Post by Romans Empire on Sept 26, 2006 18:40:04 GMT -5
With that in mind, they named the facility Belle Reve; which means "Beautiful Dream" in French. But for most, that’s where the dream ends. Belle Reve is designed to be the most secure prison ever built. It houses some of the most dangerous of the dangerous offenders. Most of the inmates are confined to their cells twenty-three hours a day and are not allowed to see or associate with other offenders. Doors are controlled electronically and by remote control. The facility is divided into six varying security levels, based upon each inmate's security classification. There are several support services available to inmates, such as health services, educational programs, gymnasium, and even a chapel. Belle Reve currently houses over five hundred inmates, thirty-eight of which fall under the "super-villain" or "meta-powered" classification.
After doing a lot of research on prisons I thought it would be cool to include some of that info to build the back-story on the home base of the Squad. Looking back now I realize that there is a lot of dry info here that slowed down the story. Belle Reve really does mean "Beautiful Dream" in French. Everything about the prison is factual based on my research, except for the 38 inmates that are super villains! At one point I did make a list of all of them too!
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Post by Romans Empire on Sept 26, 2006 18:40:48 GMT -5
Thus, when Amanda Waller went to pitch the Suicide Squad concept to the powers that be, this spartan facility was the perfect choice. Once she had the facility picked out, she then needed the hook to drive home her idea. And the only person who could give it the green light was the president of the United States himself, Maxwell Lord. Amanda knew she could take him on!
Amanda Waller wasn’t someone to be taken lightly. She had decided at an early age that unless you could make her do something, she didn’t have to do it. She was smart as a whip and tough as nails. Not only did she survive high school while others fell into drugs, gangs, and early pregnancies, she excelled and finished towards the top of her class. Amanda was looking toward her future and nothing could stop her. Almost nothing, except love. Right out of high school, Amanda Blake put her dreams aside and married twenty-year-old Joseph Waller. They settled down in the south side of Chicago in a large housing project. They were in love, and quickly began a family. Joe Jr. and Damita were the first and second born. The twins, Martin and Jessie, were born soon after. Finally, they were blessed with their last child: a baby girl by the name of Coretta. Times were tough raising a family back then. It seemed like everyone was pushing them down for being poor. But they didn’t just get by; they thrived. That is, until tragedy struck. Joe Jr. lost the battle of the streets when gang violence claimed his life at seventeen. A few months later, Damita lost her young life when she was raped and murdered by a drug dealer. Adding insult to injury, the drug dealer, ‘Candy Man’, got off due to a sloppy legal system that didn’t have time to serve justice for the black folks on the South side. Joseph Waller Sr. had had enough. He tracked down his daughter’s killer to extract his own justice. Joe killed ‘Candy Man’, but the dying drug dealer got off a final shot that left Amanda Waller a widow.
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Post by Romans Empire on Sept 26, 2006 18:41:44 GMT -5
Afterwards, she swore that she wouldn’t lose anyone else she loved to the streets. Amanda swore to God she would get them out no matter what. She was at an all time low when she went on welfare to keep her and her kids alive. It burned her up inside that she was powerless and needed government assistance to survive. But the bitterness was short lived as she pulled herself and the remaining members of her family up and out of the slums of Chicago. She got her three kids through college and then she herself got a degree. She had at last begun pursuing her dreams she had given up so long ago. Shortly after receiving her bachelor’s degree in political science, she targeted Washington. She found a Congressional candidate who was way behind in the polls. After telling him he had a strong campaign platform but no shot in hell of getting elected, she became his campaign director. Through Amanda’s efforts, he won the election and is now a powerful voice in Washington. She stayed on for a couple years but soon found that she was aspiring for bigger things. Amanda Waller found it after she stumbles across files on a former government strike force named Suicide Squad.
I wanted to give the back-story on Amanda Waller early on. I knew that she was the most well known of all the Squad characters (except for maybe Deadshot) but I wasn’t sure that anyone would really know where she came from or how she got to be the person she was. Her ‘origin’ wasn’t changed at all from the original DC version. I thought it was perfect just the way it was.
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Post by Romans Empire on Sept 26, 2006 18:45:02 GMT -5
Fifteen months ago, Washington D.C. an Undisclosed room in the oval office:
"Mr. President, thank you for meeting with me today." Amanda said as she sat across the desk from President Maxwell Lord.
Max Lord first appeared as President in DC2’s Wonder Woman title. I was giddy when I first saw this and I knew I would have fun using him, at least in a limited role in this title. I thought it was a good move on David's part making him the prez and I knew that there was bigger plans for Max down the road at DC2.
"Well, with General Eiling and Sarge Steel both bringing this 'Suicide Squad' to my attention I must say I was a little intrigued." President Lord said as he gestured towards the men sitting on either side of him. "But only a little. So tell me why the U.S. should be involved with what you are proposing here today?"
This entire scene was inspired by Secret Origins #14 written by John Ostrander back in May of 1987. In that issue Waller pitched the idea of the Suicide Squad to then President, Ronald Regan and also Sarge Steel. It was my first intro to a title that would go on to be my favorite of all time. If you ever come across this issue get it for the simple fact that Ronald Regan is one of the coolest cats to ever appear in a comic book!
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Post by Romans Empire on Sept 26, 2006 18:46:17 GMT -5
This was it. After months of planning and research it was time to face the three men who would help decide the fate of her new favorite project. The man on the left was Wade Eiling. He has served in the U.S. army and achieved the rank of General. Eiling was the chief architect of the failed Atom Project in the 1980’s but went on to serve as chief military advisor to three presidents including the current chief of staff, Maxwell Lord. Amanda Waller didn’t know a lot about Eiling, but she knew his type. His was a type she often butted heads with. But when she was floating around the idea of the Suicide Squad in Washington, Eiling contacted her and informed her that he had the pull to take her proposal to the President. Amanda wasn’t too sure she could trust him, but he did have a history with Meta-humans and he was currently an advisor to the Secretary of Defense.
I really had no desire to use Wade Eiling originally since I think he was used as a ‘bad guy’ a little too much in the DC universe, but he was essential to what I was planning in the first story arc so I fit the bastard in.
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Post by Romans Empire on Sept 26, 2006 18:52:31 GMT -5
The physically overpowering man on President Lord’s right was Sarge Steel. Waller knew even less about Steel than she did about Eiling, but one thing she knew was that he did seem to show up a lot when Meta-humans were involved. She also knew that Sarge was his first name, not his rank. Amanda had managed to dig up a few facts about his ‘work’ history. He had served in the CIA for a number of years and then disappeared. Steel popped up a few years later when the ‘Lynx Affair’ occurred. Since then, he’d been sporting a prosthetic steel hand. She also knew that he had the ear of the president and could posses a serious threat to her plans.
Sarge Steel was one character that I think has been used a lot, has always been a part of Squad history and I really looked forward to writing him into a large role for this title. His has been regulated to a supporting character due to story circumstance but I eventually plan on using him in a major storyline coming up soon. His back-story involves a female enemy named Lynx from the days he was still a Charlton Comics character so I know she will pop up eventually.
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Post by Romans Empire on Sept 26, 2006 18:55:16 GMT -5
And last but not least was the third man in the group of men sitting in front of her; President Maxwell Lord. She never liked Lord. He got under her skin. The fact that he had always been there in the shadows, seemingly trying to undermine everything she’d done since coming to Washington, didn’t escape her either. But Amanda Waller knew she would have to play it cool and focus on the facts if she was going to get him to go along with this.
"Mr. President, the U.S. has always been involved in this type of situation in one form or another for over one hundred and twenty years." she sat back in her chair and began her pitch. " In the late 1800's, prison officials realized that prisoners could be money makers for their facilities. Some were contracted out by private businesses that paid for the use of the inmates labor and they provided the materials while prison officials supervised the process. Prisons were paid by private industries according to the number and quality of goods manufactured. The prisoners were even thrown a “bone”, for lack of a better word, from time to time. That idea was so successful that some industries were entirely prison owned and operated, and goods were sold in the free market. Several prisoners were taken to a work site under armed guard and turned over to a private contractor who made them work. Some prisoners were used for maintenance of roads, highways, public parks and public and recreational buildings. Labor unions and the Great Depression effectively ended prison labor in the early part of the 20th century."
"Mrs. Waller. Amanda. I do appreciate the history lesson but is there a point here?" Lord said with a disinterested look on his face.
"Just a little background information so you can appreciate the situation we are in now" she replied.
"Well then, by all means, continue." He lifted his arm up to look at his watch.
"After that time, prison administrators were mandated by the federal government to focus on security and custody. Prisoner’s daily routines became monotonous and frustrating. Prisons became a terrible place to be." Eiling spoke up, interrupting her, "Imagine that." Without pausing, she continued, " Prisons then began to focus on treatments for offenders, which led to psychiatry and medicating the prisoners. Also, tests, psychological profiles, group therapy, behavior modification, shock therapy, and individual counseling were administered. This, plus rising crime rates, led to the overcrowding of prisons, which in turn led to more tax dollars being used to build more prisons. At the same time, prisoners began to demand basic rights and became more interested in conditions of prisons. All of which prompted the facilities to a move away from psychological treatment in prisons and to move towards programs designed to enhance offender's opportunities to become successful citizens outside of prisons. Even still, the crime rate continued to rise over the years, forcing the reinstatement of the death penalty in thirty-eight states and more severe sentences for career offenders. Along the way, the focus has been lost. The reason we need to punish offenders is retribution. It doesn’t matter if punishment deters or rehabilitates. We are losing the battle as the prison population grows at a rate of seven percent annually with the ratio of incarceration being four hundred and ten inmates for every one hundred thousand citizens. We need to get back to what works just on a larger scale, and making the prisoners work for their early parole"
Again looking back this appears to be a lot of dry information but I had a couple of goals when writing this issue. One of them was to use factual data (which it all is) to show that the Squad could be formed in the real world based on past incidents involving prisoners.
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Post by Romans Empire on Sept 26, 2006 18:58:12 GMT -5
"And putting costumed freaks to work for the government is the kind of scale you are referring to?" Lord said using a little less of a condescending tone.
" Sir, the military has been using these people off and on for years." Eiling said. Lord ignored him and looked over at Sarge Steele, "You on board with this?"
"Mr. President, prisoners have gotten time off for doing less. My only concern is the choice of some of the people who would be involved with this program." Sarge Steele said. The president began to flip through the file in front of him. He stopped when got to a list of names.
“Rick Flagg, Ben Turner, Eve Eden, the list goes on…” Lord said trailing off. “These people are the primary team?”
“Some of them, yes.” Amanda replied. “With secondary roles filled with prisoners as different missions require.”
“And these people are going to keep the bad guys in line?” Lord asked, shaking his head. “Who’s going to keep them in line?”
"A lot of the people involved in this are broken or bent people, Sir. They might get a chance to mend themselves and serve their country at the same time." Waller sat up as she anticipated the final word from Lord.
"Well, I have to admit that I am more then a little intrigued at the idea. But having you in charge of all of this... " Maxwell Lord trailed off, pausing as he stood up. He turned to face Amanda. "The success of this group and your involvement with it will greatly depend on how well you play with others. You do have a track record of going off on your own since you've been in this town."
"I'm sorry Sir, but sometimes there is only one way to get the job done, and it isn't always pretty or pleasant." Waller retorted as she too stood up. “ I understand the problems this country, and you as its leader in particular, are facing. There are situations here and abroad that need dealing with; situations that the government shouldn’t be involved with. At least not directly involved with. This is where the Squad comes in. They will be a group of agents that can get the job done and are totally expendable. We give the ‘super-villains a deal. If they do what they’re told to do, succeed and survive, and keep quite about it, then we will reduce their sentence to time served. The government gets a super team with one-hundred percent deniability if things ever go sour”
The other goal of this issue was to hopefully convince the readers that the premise of the Squad made sense at least as much as it could for this type of story. In some ways I think that the Squad makes as much sense now as it did in the cold war era! I also wanted to explain what the original idea was behind the Squad back when John Ostrander introduced the team back in ’87.
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Post by Romans Empire on Sept 26, 2006 18:59:47 GMT -5
"I think you've sold me on the idea enough to give it a trial run." President Lord announced, glancing back and forth between Waller and Eiling. "You will answer to Eiling for now and he will keep me informed on your progress as this gets up and running." Amanda forced a smile as she shook the Presidents hand. "Thank you, Sir."
"Don't thank me yet. I will be looking for any reason to pull the plug on this if I see fit, understand?"
Amanda gritted her teeth but held her composure as she nodded and headed out the door. Wade Eiling shook hands with Lord and Steele. "I will be in touch." He said before heading out the door himself.
"I don't like this, Sir." Sarge Steel noted as he and President Lord sat back down at the desk. “Do you think it’s wise to let her lead a government sponsored group of misfits and super-villains?”
“Don’t be so paranoid Steel. They might be of some use. And when they cease to be useful…we’ve got people in place who can take care of them.” President Lord grinned slyly as he glanced at Steel.
“And Waller?” Steel said.
“Waller has been a thorn in my side for years” Lord pauses and then begins to chuckle. “ Look at it this way, she is on a course of self destruction, and when it all ends she’s bound to get her self killed and take the lot with her.” Maxwell looked up at Steel and gave him a reassuring grin. "Relax, Steel. With a name like the Suicide Squad, what could go wrong?"
To be continued…
All and all, this tale accomplished what I set out to do and that was to give the readers the back-story on the Squad concept and also introduce some of the main characters involved. It was my very first attempt at fan fiction and when I wrote this I still had no idea how the actual storyline would play out beyond my initial outline. If I had to do it over again I may have cut out some of the ‘Dry’ info that slowed the tale down, but I think the rest of the story arc more then made up for this issues lack of action.
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