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Post by Brandon on Jan 1, 2006 18:54:31 GMT -5
Sorry man. Can't agree with that. The Beatles were more than just a 60s band. They were the catalyst for 60s rock. Just as Hendrix was the catalyst for 70s rock.
Without the Beatles, the entire musical landscape of the past forty years wouldn't have been the same. They had the single largest impact on music in the 20th century. I'm not saying they are musical gods or anything, that's silly, but I would say it would be hard to deny how far reaching their innovations in music were.
Wha? Haha. The only other person I've heard say that is the guy in my cousin's band who pines for the "good ole days" of 80s Hair Bands. I could only wish we could get another good music revolution going again like we had in the early 90s. It seemed like everytime you turned on the radio you were hearing something new and original. From Soundgarden to Alanis Morrisette to Tori Amos to Nine Inch Nails to Sublime and so many other great sounds. Today's music is a pale and dismal shadow of what it was ten years ago.
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Post by Brandon on Jan 1, 2006 18:56:20 GMT -5
OK..so far off topic............Alan Moore is a hack and Grant Morrison rules! Ok almost back.................. Ha. If you don't enjoy Moore, that's one thing, but calling him a hack is pushing it. Why not go ahead and call out Jack Kirby while you're at it? ;D
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Post by Romans Empire on Jan 1, 2006 19:12:43 GMT -5
OK I am going to put myself out there once again and say that I loved the 80's hair band sound. It's what I listened to in highschool. (see I leave myself open so often) I do enjoy a wide variety of music now. But, the older I get the less and less 'new' music i enjoy. It is a trap of getting older i guess. My mom grew up in Mo-Town and I was influenced by that sound quiet a bit. But as with her music, it grew and changed to a point she doesn't listen to new music anymore. I think that happens with everyone eventually. But to say that ten years ago you could turn on the 'mainstream' radio and hear something new and original, that makes me laugh a little. I believe the only real original band to emerge out of the last ten years is the Dave Matthews Band. They have been my favorite band since '96. I can tell we are about the same age but our tastes vary some what, if not a lot when it comes to music, and that fine. But be warned my friend, you will fall victim to the 'new' music problem that faced my Mom and I too am now facing. And when it does you too will scratch your head and wonder why everyone is saying 'groups like nirvana' made music better because it shock up the status quo and things are better because they are new and different. New doesn't=Better. Look at comics!
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Post by Romans Empire on Jan 1, 2006 19:17:21 GMT -5
Ha. If you don't enjoy Moore, that's one thing, but calling him a hack is pushing it. Why not go ahead and call out Jack Kirby while you're at it? ;D OK I am calling out Jack Kirby! There is a reason that Jack Kirby was called the King, just like Elvis was the King of Rock and Roll. They were the best at what they did. Any questions?
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Post by Brandon on Jan 1, 2006 19:45:35 GMT -5
OK I am going to put myself out there once again and say that I loved the 80's hair band sound. It's what I listened to in highschool. (see I leave myself open so often) Anyone our age listened to a little hair metal back in the day, but that sound ran it's course like most any other, living on as influences in newer music. Zeppelin was good, but you couldn't hear it without hearing a little Robert Johnson, so did old school Johnson fans at the time snub the band or did they enjoy the legacy? I find contemporary bands all the time that I think have merit. White Stripes are amazing, Jet has promise, Radiohead is ever good, Gorillaz is good, Audioslave is a fresh take by old pros, Kanye West is a thoughtful and witty new take on rap, Tenacious D carries the torch of parody rock, Outkast is keeping funk alive, My Chemical Romance is a solid sound, Weezer's still going strong, 311 is effectively reviving the Sublime sound, Coldplay and Green Day are still turning out great albums, plus so many lower level groups you never hear of like OK Go, Travis, Jack Johnson, Postal Service, Mars Volta, Scissor Sisters, etc. I think there is a lot of stuff out there if you look. It's just that the mainstream is dominated by such dreck that much of it goes without notice. Living near Nashville at the time I guess I just had access to a few progressive stations. Don't get me started on Dave. He is a solid musician but there is a level of pretention layered over mediocrity that really irks me. Just my opinion there. Maybe. Maybe not. I still find myself exploring the cultural landscape and I pray I never become so set in my ways that I can no longer appreciate the world around me. "Glory Days" is not an attitude I find myself prone to I don't think.
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Post by Romans Empire on Jan 1, 2006 20:30:01 GMT -5
Well I can certainly appreciate and admire your take on the music scene past and present. The fact that you are constantly searching for new music is great. And I certainly agree with you about mainstream radio. And i agree with you on some on the bands and artists you cited. I personally don't go out of my way much anymore looking for new music. I don't consider being set in my ways by any means because of it.But music like any other form of entertainment is made for an audience, usually for a certain age group. Some of it can transcend barriers but it requires you to examine your personal tastes and preferences. One thing that bothers me about people in general is when they have to stop and think before they state something they like. Will I get laughed at? Is what I like cool? Is something I don't liked gonna get me bashed because so-and-so is a legend? Is something that I like considered out of style? Should I like something because it might make me look smarter or more sophisticated? Hell, Comic Books aren't cool to the rest of the world but here we all are because we like it in one form or another! No one else can tell you what is good or what is bad. You like what you like and you don't like it for the same reason. The whole point of everything I have said on this thread points to that. I just wish more people weren't afraid to say what they like or dis-like just because someone else might not! WE are all different so that makes us all the same doesn't it? You don't need to justify to anyone what you like. I am never looking to change someones mind to justify what I like. Nor Am I gonna change their mind by pointing out why I think so-and-so sucks! But it sure makes it fun to have a discussion about it doesn't it? Oh! By the way, I choose to ignore your jabs at DMB but that hurt, A lot!
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Post by starlord on Jan 1, 2006 22:26:57 GMT -5
Ok, this thread has gotten way off track and I'm not helping by asking this question, but am hoping someone can answer this for me. Heard a new singer (think he's new) and not sure of his name. I think it is either Booth or Bluth or something like that. Does it ring a bell with anyone???
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Post by HoM on Jan 2, 2006 16:05:34 GMT -5
I don't want WATCHMEN to let us down as an industry and as a world community. I want Alan Moore to have his name up there with Dave Gibbons showing that it's a true adaption, and not something that is far from the original idea. I want Rorschach to be cool.
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