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Post by Admin on Jan 18, 2012 13:23:29 GMT -5
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Post by ryokowerx on Jan 20, 2012 18:53:28 GMT -5
First, new WWQ! YAY!  Secondly, Wow. Poor Echo Valley  And, dammit, boy, if a man can dig himself from out of his own grave when he was daid, giving him the Wonder Woman treatment ain't gonna do you no good. And now we've got Firehair and Hawk out for blood. This oughta be real good. Can't wait for the second part, Susan! Keep 'em comin' and I'll keep readin'! |
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Post by HoM on Jan 21, 2012 8:47:23 GMT -5
I am being completely rubbish this month but I fully intend to read this in February. You have my word!
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Post by Susan Hillwig on Jan 22, 2012 20:04:31 GMT -5
Don't feel bad, Charlie, I'm months behind on my reading here. I can barely find time to write these days, even.  Sad as it was to write, the fate of Echo Valley was set in stone years ago, and what's to come in the next two issues has even been hinted at in a few DC2 stories. Ever read Flash #27? If not, go take a look -- I told Kevin Feeny what I had planned, and he took the notion and ran with it. As for "the Wonder Woman treatment", please keep in mind that they thought the man was dead by hanging over two decades ago, and there was little time to step back and assess the situation. You try the first method you think of and pray it works, y'know? Regarding Part 2: the title is "Gathering the Troops". That's all I'm telling you.  |
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Post by David on Jan 25, 2012 16:05:26 GMT -5
Just got done reading this. Wow. Man, I wish I could write like Susan Hillwig  . First she sucks you in, makes you like her characters, you become attached to them, then like the vengeful and capricious goddess she is, she mangles your expectations, heart and confidence (like I said, I wish I could do what she does in only nine pages). I know I'm not the most consistent reader of WWQ (and less consistent on leaving feedback), but if Susan is writing it, then attention must needs be paid! With lines like: "Hell was his way..." and "You damned me long ago, I merely took advantage of it" Wise Old ascends into the pantheon of the DC2's most badass villains. And with Joey on cover art, how can this issue be anything but a perfect 5 stars? I'll be back next month--- drat! Quarter! |
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Post by Susan Hillwig on Jan 31, 2012 12:41:48 GMT -5
Just got done reading this. Wow. Man, I wish I could write like Susan Hillwig . First she sucks you in, makes you like her characters, you become attached to them, then like the vengeful and capricious goddess she is, she mangles your expectations, heart and confidence (like I said, I wish I could do what she does in only nine pages). I wish I could do it in nine pages too. Instead, it usually takes me 15-30. Short-winded I ain't. |
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Post by HoM on Feb 6, 2016 13:02:44 GMT -5
Well, I just saw I promised to read this in February 2012 and that never happened. Oh, the folly of youth. But as you can guess, I've not kept up with WWQ and that's a shame. The western corner of the DC2 has always been a brilliant one, just as important as the superhero one, and I like how important the DC2 considered all the vital ages of comic books. Golden Age, obviously, and this Western Age, all the gunslingers and cowboys, it's great to seem them consistently represented. And represented so well, to boot.
Chris Maxwell, the man who would become Max Mercury, is a great 'entry character' to this arc. I've not kept up, like I said, but his introduction was clear and concise. I know who this guy is, and the little nods and nudges to what's come before, be it his twenty plus years with superspeed, or his journey to Nanda Parbat, really came together well.
It was interesting reading Maxwell and Hawk's discussion about the secession. Was 'racism' even a word they used back then, in the context we do? It stuck out at me when I read... obviously the CONCEPT of racism ran rampant, but the word... it was an interesting little thought that ran through my head. Basically, when did "racism" enter our lexicon? Has it been around as long as the concept it describes?
Now, due to my not keeping up, I had no idea who Wise Owl was (sorry) but his attack on the valley was brutal and went a long way to show how dangerous he was. The dream-like omen Maxwell experienced was ominous (obviously) and the resulting destruction horrible. Owl's return after being seemingly murdered was scary-- the visual alone was great work, and the threat he posed clear.
All in all, this was a great opening act to what promises to be a diabolical story. My only criticism-- and it is minor-- is that it wasn't really written for newcomers to the title, so coming in this late to the game left me wondering what some of the events meant, what the context behind them was. Hawk rocked up at one point (nyuk) and I was wondering if this was Hannibal Hawkes by some winking, WWQ-reader-would-know other name, because I didn't know any better. Little clarifications on who was who, what was what, would have been really helpful-- he said, four years later!
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Post by Susan Hillwig on Feb 11, 2016 19:57:14 GMT -5
Well, I just saw I promised to read this in February 2012 and that never happened. Oh, the folly of youth. But as you can guess, I've not kept up with WWQ and that's a shame. The western corner of the DC2 has always been a brilliant one, just as important as the superhero one, and I like how important the DC2 considered all the vital ages of comic books. Golden Age, obviously, and this Western Age, all the gunslingers and cowboys, it's great to seem them consistently represented. And represented so well, to boot. Considering how late I am with WWQ#25, I'm not worried about you taking so long to read this. And I've always been very honored that I was given the opportunity to keep the Old West alive here on DC2. The fact that people not only read this title but praise it always delights me. It's been a hoot filling in Maxwell's backstory, especially since we mainly know him as the "Zen Master of the Speed Force". That isn't a title you earn overnight, it takes a a lot of hard work, and I like figuring out what happened to him along the way. From the Online Etymology Dictionary: racist - 1932 as a noun, 1938 as an adjective, from race (n.2); racism is first attested 1936 (from French racisme, 1935), originally in the context of Nazi theories. But they replaced earlier words, racialism (1871) and racialist (1917), both often used early 20c. in a British or South African context. In the U.S., race hatred, race prejudice had been used, and, especially in 19c. political contexts, negrophobia. I've always walked a fine line when it comes to discussing this sort of thing in WWQ. One of my earliest editorial conversations with David regarded whether or not I should use the n-word in a story (I eventually opted not to, in place of another word that carried similar connotations without the controversy). It's difficult to compare the 19th Century notions about this subject to the 21st Century notions, because these days, we'd probably consider everyone from back then a racist, be it towards Blacks or Irish or Asians or whatever ethnicity/nationality you choose. That's just how it was, and we're still recovering from those attitudes to this day. Read WWQ#8-9 and Rogues Gallery #16, that should bring you up to speed on Wise Owl. As for Hannibal Hawkes...go read WWQ#24, it's only been sittin' there for three-and-a-half years! |
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. First she sucks you in, makes you like her characters, you become attached to them, then like the vengeful and capricious goddess she is, she mangles your expectations, heart and confidence (like I said, I wish I could do what she does in only nine pages).