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Post by lissilambe on Apr 7, 2009 12:56:57 GMT -5
I put this link up for our beloved Cowboy author and prairie literati. Not sure if you should be afraid or be excited, but me, I'm willing to...wait and see. ;D It's Jonah Hex! Okay, well, not the picture in it, that's Megan Fox in a robe over her wild west garb, but the story's about the movie. Take care Don
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Post by ryokowerx on Apr 8, 2009 15:01:32 GMT -5
I'm cautiously looking forward to this. I haven't been exactly thrilled when Brolin shoots his mouth off to a reporter that the script is "awful... I love it." The two writers (the guys who wrote Crank)walk out on the project and I've been hearing conflicting reports about it being a supernatural western (with Turnbull as a voodoo master) or just a traditional western.
I want a kickass Hex movie but I'm not thrilled with some of the events surrounding it.
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Post by lissilambe on Jun 4, 2009 10:52:34 GMT -5
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Post by Trevor on Jun 4, 2009 16:09:23 GMT -5
If Megan Fox is in it... I will definitely watch this...
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Post by Susan Hillwig on Jun 4, 2009 18:41:05 GMT -5
Megan Fox looks hot, but Brolin...call me fussy, but I wanted the scar to be a tad more gruesome. That's almost invisible! PLEASE let them CG some more in!
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Post by lissilambe on Jun 4, 2009 18:53:39 GMT -5
Yeah, I was a bit let down by the disfigurement, then I recalled that those are just simple pictures, not real pictures even, they look like still captures, so it's likely that the effect is lessened and on the final product, it'll get beefed up.
That's my hope and I'm sticking to it. LOL
Take care Don
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Post by Mr Clown on Jun 12, 2009 11:42:42 GMT -5
I'm not worried yet, remember how everyone reacted to the first screenshots of The Joker? This is still in the early stages is all. Brolin seems like a sound choice, I'll check out the movie when it's time.
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Post by Susan Hillwig on Jun 12, 2009 12:47:53 GMT -5
Good point. I was among those calling Heath Ledger's Joker a "crack whore" when the pics first came out, and now that's one of my fave flicks...and I SO want to pull the "pencil trick" on someone! ;D
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Post by Mr Clown on Jun 12, 2009 13:31:51 GMT -5
Harder than it looks, the damned lead keeps breaking when you jam the pencil into the table... Wait, what?
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Post by l1701e on Jun 14, 2009 0:02:52 GMT -5
Hi-O!
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Post by Susan Hillwig on Aug 2, 2009 18:34:51 GMT -5
Okay, ComicCon's come and gone, so now we've got more Hex junk to talk about, like the poster: I'm kinda lukewarm about it. Going by this, the movie seems to be more about Megan Fox and her rack than that ugly guy on the left. Oh, and it's very, VERY blue. Damn Yankee PR department. Another thing I wanted to post is a "cheat-sheet" created by Dwayne of "Matching Dragoons" ( jonahhex.blogspot.com/ ). He was getting a bit ticked off by the misnomers being passed around in the press regarding Hex's history, as well as the fact that Michael Fleisher, who wrote the character for about 15 years and is repsonsible for nearly all of Hex's backstory, never gets mentioned. So to (hopefully) set the facts straight, he made a little list, and some of us Hex-nuts are doing our best to spread it around wherever Jonah Hex and/or the movie is mentioned. Remember kids, knowledge is power! * Jonah Hex was created by John Albano & Tony DeZuniga in 1972. * John Albano wrote ten (10) stories with Jonah Hex in them. * David Michilene wrote three (3) Jonah Hex stories. * Arnold Drake wrote one (1) Jonah Hex story. * Joe Landsdale wrote thirteen (13) Jonah Hex stories. * Justin Gray & Jimmy Palmiotti have written fifty (50) stories with Jonah Hex. * Michael Fleisher wrote one hundred and twenty five (125) Jonah Hex stories. * Of the 202 books with Jonah Hex as the star Michael Fleisher wrote 62% of them. * Michael Fleisher created Quentin Turnbull. * Michael Fleisher created the history of Jonah Hex's scar. * Zombies appeared in only five (5) issues (or 2%) of Jonah Hex (Jonah Hex: Two-Gun Mojo) * Science Fiction (Sci-Fi) only plays a part in eighteen (18) issues (or 9%) with Jonah Hex (HEX) * Zombies are not "iconic" in the history of Jonah Hex. * Zombies never appeared in the futuristic version of Jonah Hex. * Jimmy Hayward (the director) has said that there are NO ZOMBIES IN THIS MOVIE!
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Post by chris on Feb 7, 2010 14:23:18 GMT -5
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Post by >>Riz! on Feb 7, 2010 14:50:39 GMT -5
I don't know... the poster reminds me of this stupid Van Helsing movie. I don't know if I'm gonna watch this... Not a fan of Megan Fox, never been a fan of Cowboys and Western movies... we'll see...
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Post by chris on Feb 7, 2010 16:40:01 GMT -5
I'm a fan of looking at Megan Fox, but that's as far as it goes. I will definetly give the movie a chance though.
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Post by HoM on Feb 7, 2010 18:47:23 GMT -5
I'm a fan of looking at Megan Fox, but that's as far as it goes. I will definetly give the movie a chance though. Though when it came to Jennifer's Body, I was more into Amanda Seyfried than Fox... but she's got pulling power, yes she does.
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Post by chris on Feb 7, 2010 19:58:38 GMT -5
I haven't seen it yet. I don't know what you mean by pulling power, but I will take this opportunity to remind you this is a family site.
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Post by Admin on Feb 7, 2010 21:50:45 GMT -5
I haven't seen it yet. I don't know what you mean by pulling power, but I will take this opportunity to remind you this is a family site. Ha!
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Post by Susan Hillwig on Feb 9, 2010 14:11:15 GMT -5
Haven't seen these yet, so thanks! I like Megan's jacket, but I'm still on the fence about Brolin's scar...it's not as good as I'd hoped.
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Post by ryokowerx on Jun 18, 2010 15:57:48 GMT -5
From a review I just read:
"And if anything that I'm writing about JONAH HEX seems slightly like incomprehensible rambling, try sitting through the movie. Your standard for incomprehensible will undoubtedly be altered. And if the people who made this movie didn't bother to try and make sense, why the hell should I? To say I hated this movie would imply that anything in my soul was stirred enough to form an emotion. I could feel my brain literally throwing out the memories of the first half of the movie as I sat through the second half. And if you think that the film's abbreviated running time (right around 80 minutes with credits) will dull the pain of watching it, guess again. No film in recent memory feels more like a studio came in, saw what a mess they had at 90 or 100 minutes, and they simply took a chainsaw into the editing room to try to make something out of it before they pushed it out the door like a gay son in a Mormon household. There are so many good movies coming out this weekend that if you actually spend money to see JONAH HEX , you deserve all the pain you will inevitably suffer."
OUCH
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Post by chris on Jun 18, 2010 17:56:59 GMT -5
Who's review is that ?
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Post by ryokowerx on Jun 19, 2010 6:17:35 GMT -5
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Post by chris on Jun 19, 2010 22:22:27 GMT -5
Wow, those are pretty harsh. I didn't know they added the power to talk to the dead. I didn;t mind when they gave Doom powers but this seems pretty off for Jonah. The most successful of the comic book movies(mostly the Marvel ones) do great when they stick to the source material. Then they do stuff like this and wonder why it flops. I really hope this was done mostly before DC made all their changes in the multi-media section of the company.I've never been a big follower of Jonah Hex, but if the Green Lantern and the others for Flash etc. they have planned are full of actors who don't care about the characters and directors who think they can make them better I will be seriously disappointed. Hopefully, the animated stuff they have been doing is a good indication of where things are going.
That being said I haven't seen the Hex movie and I try to ignore reviews until I have. The only review I will take to heart on this one is Susan's. If they can make her like this version of Jonah Hex, then it can't be all that bad.
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Post by Susan Hillwig on Jun 19, 2010 23:46:24 GMT -5
Going to be seeing it in...12 hours. Sunday after church. I've read tons of reviews (all as bad as the one above) but I've heard from a few fellow Hex-nuts who saw it Friday that say it's not great but it's fun. #1 complaint so far is bad editing, and #2 is tone, which apparently changes halfway through the movie (but that might be a symptom of #1).
I'm pretty much going into this flick with the mindset that this is Elseworlds Hex, so all bets are off. I do want to say before my opinion gets tainted that, even if this turns out to be an absolute horse-muffin, I love that Josh Brolin sounds EXACTLY the way Hex does in my head -- every time he talks in some clip or another from the movie, I get this smirk on my face.
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Post by ryokowerx on Jun 20, 2010 16:16:57 GMT -5
I'll be interested to see what you think of it Susan. The opening weekend box office is in now and it tanked. It only made $5 million dollars and opened in 8th place.
Perhaps one of these days the studios will learn to respect the source material although I'm pretty sure this deal was struck way before Marvel and DC started looking at their own companies for producing movie content.
Lets hope that Green Lantern turns out better.
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Post by Susan Hillwig on Jun 21, 2010 1:50:45 GMT -5
Okay, I wrote this review for a website that was asking for one, but another guy beat me to it, so y'all get the full-on rambling version. As for box-office, Hex went up against Toy Story 3 plus 2 remakes that have that glow of 80's nostalgia over them. I'm not happy, but I'm not surprised.
Been hearin’ the rumors for months now, crazy talk ‘bout how he’d changed so drastically, how he wasn’t the same person. But me and him, we go back a ways, and I figured the only way to get the truth was to go seek out the man himself. So I met up with him in a darkened theatre, and we had good long talk for about 80-odd minutes.
And let me reassure you, friends, that Jonah Hex (in the guise of Josh Brolin) may look and act a bit different than what we’re used to, but on the inside, he’s the same man we’ve known for over 38 years.
It was kind of a shock, in a way. Everything I’ve been hearing had lowered my expectations to near-zero, so I thought I’d be groaning under my breath for most of the film. I will concede that those who don’t know the character at all might not like it because, as those that do know him are aware, Hex is not an easy character to love: he’s dirty, he’s surly, he’d sooner spit in your eye than offer a kind word...and I’d say that Brolin nails every bit of that attitude. Unfortunately, movie franchises are not usually based around guys like that, so I reckon the critics are a little taken aback by what they saw, but as a Hex-nut, I was pleased. He does show a soft edge here and there, but only when appropriate, and that’s not out-of-character for him either...Hell, I was damn-near moved at one point because, once again, Brolin nailed it. Either he or the writers studied Hex real close, because I can’t think of one line coming out of his mouth that rang false.
Hex’s backstory took a few bad lumps, though, which is understandable: in this knee-jerk, politically-correct age, no studio would likely let ritual scarring by angry Apaches hit the big screen. So instead, the honor of administering it goes to Quentin Turnbull (Malkovich), but don’t worry, kids, they still manage to work in a red-hot tomahawk to the face later on, much to my surprise. There’s also the garbling of the Turnbull/Hex feud, taking away the element of Hex’s accidental betrayal of his unit and making it deliberate, but with good reason, as Turnbull was steering them towards wholesale slaughter as opposed to simple battlefield tactics. The full details behind the betrayal are never made clear, but they do say that Hex shot Turnbull’s son Jeb, so on that count at least, Hex is guilty, and this leads directly to Turnbull’s eye-for-an-eye vengeance. Another alteration on that, as Hex is given an Indian wife and son (and going by the kid’s age, I’d say this marriage predates the War). Sadly, their only reason for existence seems to be as sacrificial lambs and possibly a tenuous link to Hex’s brief Indian upbringing (if we miraculously get a sequel, I’d like to see that explored). Luckily, those Indians are also the ones who pull Hex back from the brink of death after Turnbull shatters his life.
And that brings us to a major change in Hex’s character: he talks to dead people. Before going into the movie, I psyched myself out by saying that Brolin’s Hex was nutters and he imagined this ability, but nope, he’s really doing it...and Lord help me, Brolin makes it believable. In his hands, talking to the dead becomes simply another tool in Hex’s arsenal, and he treats it as such. For the record, we only see him use it three times: the first establishes the parameters of how it works, the second provides us with a scene that lays out a remarkable depth of feeling for Hex that I really don’t want to spoil, and the third is over with lickety-split but it’s so creative and mad-dog mean that you know the comic-book Hex would do it too if he could. I still think they shouldn’t have saddled an all-too-human character with a supernatural trait, but they made me accept it within the confines of this flick, so I’m okay with it.
As for other oddities...well, some work and some don’t. The acid-spitting weirdo in the pit-fighting scene seems to have no purpose but to up the crazy factor a bit (though the conversation between Hex and Tom Wopat’s character happening just above the pit-fight works well). Hex’s specialty weapons look like stuff he might consider using if he could actually get his hands on them (though that horse of his must be very well-trained to tolerate the noise of twin Gatling guns like that!), and Turnbull’s “nation-killer” gun is the ultimate in steampunk, reminding me of the Nazis’ actual “Big Bertha” gun in a way. I give the writers props for working in Eli Whitney (and accurately mentioning that he’s responsible for modern manufacturing as well as the cotton gin...both of which are inadvertent causes of the Civil War, by the by), but for the life of me, I can’t think of what in blazes those flaming dragonballs the cannon spews out are supposed to be made of! Oh, and I take points off for giving the thing Capitol building-shaped crosshairs...that’s just plain silly.
I suppose I should take a second to review the other characters in this flick. John Malkovich does a good job as Turnbull, and though he’s more physically active than his comic-book counterpart, I noticed that, as with Brolin/Hex, the attitude is the same: he spends more time playing mastermind and directing others to do his dirty work than he does getting his own hands dirty. Even the way he talks, all blustery and spelling everything out, conforms to the original character. Megan Fox’s character of Lilah doesn’t get as much screen-time as the ads would have you believe, but she does a decent job when she’s there. The age difference between Brolin and Fox is a mite distracting, but since I remember Hex one time bedded down with a gal half his age, I could excuse it. What surprised me about Lilah was how well she handled her weapons...but since I knew what her full name was before it was said on film, I shouldn’t have been surprised at all. The biggest pleasure for me was watching Michael Fassbender as Turnbull’s Irish crony Burke. This guy was just wicked fun every time he was on screen, and a real threat to Hex. Plus he made me grin when he kept calling Hex “little flower” as a put-down.
Now to address two problems that keep coming up in other reviews I’ve seen: the length and the editing. Honestly, I didn’t feel that the movie clocked in too short, though I could’ve sat through at least another hour of it and not complained. Not once did I look at my watch, which I normally do at least once during a movie, so if they can keep my eyes on the screen and not on the time, then that’s a plus. As for editing, it doesn’t get choppy for me until the end fight (I swear there’s one split-second scene that they showed twice within maybe five minutes, but that might’ve been my eyes playing tricks), but where I can see what might be off-putting for some folks in the interspersing of the actual fight between Hex and Turnbull alongside a “internal” fight of those same guys on a field of red clay (which also pops up here and there throughout the film). If I understand from other sources, the red clay sequence was supposed to be the original end fight, but they nixed it in favor of steampunk cannons. Luckily, somebody found a way to work it back in that’s artsy as Hell, and I loved it. Personally, I could probably spend a paragraph dissecting the meaning of the red clay sequence, but I’m trying to be brief here.
All in all, I had a good time, and best of all, I don’t think they insulted Jonah Hex one bit. That was my biggest concern from the moment they announced there would be a movie: the notion that they’d toss any old junk together and call it good because he’s a lower-tier character. There are a few bumps in the road that I could’ve done without, but I’d go see it again, and I hope the inevitable DVD comes with so much extra stuff that they need 5 disks to pack it all in.
Now I just have to find a way to explain this flick to anybody that isn’t a Hex-nut...
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Post by Susan Hillwig on Jul 6, 2010 11:50:16 GMT -5
And now Jonah himself (via RandomGuy) weighs in on the movie:
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