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Post by Adamus Prime on Oct 12, 2005 21:30:55 GMT -5
The FlashI'm fairly new at attempting to draw stuff like this and would really enjoy some feedback.
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Post by Dr Dread on Oct 12, 2005 21:42:10 GMT -5
Welcome abord!
I like the pose, it's very energetic and does convey a lot of motion. The head and face are well drawn, but kind of looks to be "floating" on top of the body. If you angle the head slightly closer to the angle of the shoulders, it should fix that illusion.
Good stuff, keep it up. I look forwards to seeing more!
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Post by onegemini on Oct 12, 2005 22:27:05 GMT -5
The FlashI'm fairly new at attempting to draw stuff like this and would really enjoy some feedback. The pose is fine. It's typical Flash, and does convey the movement in his run. However, you really need to work on your anatomy. There are major problems here. I can't absolutely tell, but it looks like there was no underdrawing to the picture. No sketch before the final lines were put down, like things were decided on the fly (what medium was this BTW?), and it shows. Reference woulda really help here. In this case, you could look at pictures of Olympic runners. You could see the exact poses, where the muscles are, etc. But, good first effort anyway. Takes guts and a bit of confidence to put an image up to get critiqued. Good show.
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Post by Adamus Prime on Oct 12, 2005 22:44:23 GMT -5
most of the time when i draw a sketch and try to get basically what i want down on pencil then go over what i want with ink. You nailed it about the anatomy though. There was some of an under drawing but i erased it. I got too impatient i think and just settled. Thanks for the comments suggestions, anyone else feel free.
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Post by onegemini on Oct 12, 2005 22:57:39 GMT -5
most of the time when i draw a sketch and try to get basically what i want down on pencil then go over what i want with ink. You nailed it about the anatomy though. There was some of an under drawing but i erased it. I got too impatient i think and just settled. Thanks for the comments suggestions, anyone else feel free. No probs. Love to see what you got next. Post when ready.
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Post by HoM on Oct 13, 2005 2:18:21 GMT -5
I can't see it... OR a link...
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Post by Brandon on Oct 13, 2005 6:50:56 GMT -5
I can't see it either. Oh wait, is this another one of those Mozilla Firefox things? I'll try in on Explorer and see if it shows up.
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Post by Brandon on Oct 13, 2005 6:54:24 GMT -5
Oh wait, it's a link. Click on "The Flash" and you can see it, Charlie. We really need to change the hyperlink color so it shows up! *cough*changeitdavid*coughcough* ;D Adamus: I like the pose and I like the head rendering, as suggested just tighten up the anatomy and you'll have one heck of a picture! Can't wait to see more.
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Post by Dr Dread on Oct 13, 2005 7:23:49 GMT -5
It's a 1200x1200 resolution pic. If Adamus can lower the resolution to maybe 600x600, it'll be easier displayed on these boards.
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Post by Adamus Prime on Oct 13, 2005 8:46:38 GMT -5
Adamus will try.
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Post by HoM on Oct 13, 2005 12:40:35 GMT -5
Thats a Micheal Turner copy... I recognise the pose! But still, rightly done! I like it, albiet it not exactly your own work!
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Post by Adamus Prime on Oct 13, 2005 21:55:29 GMT -5
Indeed you are correct Houseofmystery! I usually draw from some sort of reference like a comic cover. Michael Turner is one of my favorites so i usually look at his covers. Not cheating, just practicing. ;D
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Post by Brandon on Oct 14, 2005 6:56:09 GMT -5
Indeed you are correct Houseofmystery! I usually draw from some sort of reference like a comic cover. Michael Turner is one of my favorites so i usually look at his covers. Not cheating, just practicing. ;D Totally cool to reference. When I sketch out a pic I usually have a couple of reference images and a sketch or two of my own sitting in front of me. I use to not do this as I thought I was cheating or something until I found out how many pros reference and even lightbox from reference pics. Geez, if you've seen some of Marvel's "realistic" art lately in the Ultimates line and others then you should know that there is a heckuva of a lot of cut-and-paste and drawovers going on in those books. Some might call it post-modern (ha) but when you see a whole two page spread of Greg Land's artwork that is made up entirely of a photo with Photoshop-filtered photo objects pasted on top of it, it is pretty evident how common this stuff can be.
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Post by onegemini on Oct 14, 2005 11:54:19 GMT -5
Indeed you are correct Houseofmystery! I usually draw from some sort of reference like a comic cover. Michael Turner is one of my favorites so i usually look at his covers. Not cheating, just practicing. ;D Totally cool to reference. When I sketch out a pic I usually have a couple of reference images and a sketch or two of my own sitting in front of me. I use to not do this as I thought I was cheating or something until I found out how many pros reference and even lightbox from reference pics. Geez, if you've seen some of Marvel's "realistic" art lately in the Ultimates line and others then you should know that there is a heckuva of a lot of cut-and-paste and drawovers going on in those books. Some might call it post-modern (ha) but when you see a whole two page spread of Greg Land's artwork that is made up entirely of a photo with Photoshop-filtered photo objects pasted on top of it, it is pretty evident how common this stuff can be. Reference is fine, but you certainly don't want to reference only one image. Use photos and anatomy books right next to your Turner pics. The trouble with using one artist is any mistakes they make, (let's say anatomy) will only be repeated by you, and in that Platonic degradation of things, unless you're better than Turner (then why are you using him as a reference ) you're drawing most likely won't be as good. Turner is great and fine, but he takes shortcuts with anatomy and makes other things up entirely, but, he's an established pro, people pay him the big bucks, and that's fine. But when you're first starting up, as they always used to say at Kubert "Bad is not a style." Keep using lots of reference, and everything will improve.
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Post by onegemini on Oct 14, 2005 11:55:58 GMT -5
Oh and KSM on lightboxing, yeah... I do that with backgrounds and such (cars especially), but I've never done it with figures and major players in a scene. Bradstreet and Land do great stuff, but a lot of others who I see do it, they just come off as bad or lazy.
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