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Post by HoM on Nov 24, 2013 4:27:38 GMT -5
So, who watched it?
I saw it in 3D at the cinema and I wasn't disappointed. David Tennant, John Hurt AND Matt Smith? Cameos galore that didn't hurt the story? Oh me. Oh my.
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Post by Admin on Nov 24, 2013 5:40:24 GMT -5
I watched it in 2D on TV, thought it was great.
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Post by HoM on Nov 24, 2013 6:14:22 GMT -5
I just find stories like that so inspirational as a writer, because they want me to write the moments that stir the reader.
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Post by Dr Dread on Nov 24, 2013 14:59:44 GMT -5
I was worried that all the hype and expectation would disappoint me when I finally saw the special. I did not have to worry, I quite liked it.
I had one small quibble about the story. The three doctors were perfect together, the reason the three Doctor are assembled makes sense.
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Post by Brandon on Nov 24, 2013 17:32:11 GMT -5
Nice set up to retcon the destruction of Gallifrey without really changing anything. The Doctor can now be about redemption instead of this roller coaster of guilt and weight of responsibility. I like that. And the cameo at the end really captured it perfectly. That was my Doctor as a child. Interested in how well Capaldi will be in the role since I know zero about him.
Anybody catch the Night of the Doctor prequel or the Five(ish) Doctors? I haven't see the latter yet. BBC's website didn't like me not living in their country and trying to view it.
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Post by Admin on Nov 24, 2013 18:44:11 GMT -5
Anybody catch the Night of the Doctor prequel or the Five(ish) Doctors? I haven't see the latter yet. BBC's website didn't like me not living in their country and trying to view it. Caught the Night of the Doctor prequel and liked it (though it was spoiled slightly by my nephew telling me in advance which Doctor's night it was) and started watching the Five(ish) Doctors but fell asleep during it (it was quite late at night to be fair, though the bit I stayed awake through wasn't that funny). Think "An Adventure In Time And Space" was my favourite tie-in (a drama about the start of Doctor Who).
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Post by Brandon on Nov 24, 2013 19:15:07 GMT -5
I think I heard a little about that on NPR. I'll have to check it out.
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Post by Susan Hillwig on Nov 24, 2013 19:38:44 GMT -5
Anybody catch the Night of the Doctor prequel or the Five(ish) Doctors? I haven't see the latter yet. BBC's website didn't like me not living in their country and trying to view it. Caught the Night of the Doctor prequel and liked it (though it was spoiled slightly by my nephew telling me in advance which Doctor's night it was) and started watching the Five(ish) Doctors but fell asleep during it (it was quite late at night to be fair, though the bit I stayed awake through wasn't that funny). Think "An Adventure In Time And Space" was my favourite tie-in (a drama about the start of Doctor Who). Night of the Doctor made me wish (not for the first time) that the 1996 TV movie hadn't failed. An Adventure in Space and Time was wonderfully touching. The Five(ish) Doctors took a bit to get going, but when it hit its stride, it had me laughing so hard I'd have to pause the video (the John Barrowman scenes...oh God, that was perfect!). The Day of the Doctor wasn't bad either.
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Post by arcalian on Nov 24, 2013 22:31:01 GMT -5
Night of the Doctor was of course very pleasing to me. I haven't got to see "day" yet, but I know that GALLIFREY IS BACK which is very very very very important to me.
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Post by UltimateDC on Nov 25, 2013 1:05:06 GMT -5
I'm sad we didn't get to see Eccleston proper again, but then again the anniversary specials are never perfect. In the ten-year, Hartnell barely showed up because of his illness. In the twenty-year, Tom Baker didn't come back because he thought it was too soon after he left. In the thirty-year, it was Dimensions in Time, which was...Dimensions in Time. Don't think there was a forty-year.
Anyway, I liked it. Smith and Tennant were a blast and Hurt made a great impression in his one appearance (I honestly would love to see the War Doctor pop up again some time down the line, but I know that won't happen). Plus I'm now way more jazzed for the X-Mas special, especially after having seen the teaser.
I'm not a huge Whovian, but I still got a lot of kicks from Night of the Doctor and Five(ish) Doctors. I honestly now believe Steven Moffat's writing process is playing with action figures.
-UDC
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Post by rheasilva on Feb 11, 2014 22:27:54 GMT -5
Personally, I thought it was an interesting mix in how they brought this story to a close. I can't help but bust out laughing about the "screwdriver envy" moment when the different incarnations met. It would be interesting to see more about the War Doctor, but if anything comes out it might be in other forms like audio/radio books - which I'm sure I'll find nearly a decade after its release publicly. *chuckle*
I still feel like I'm catching up on this and everything else...even though I followed the classic series like clockwork with my father. *laughs* It's actually been a blast going back over the mix of shows I've seen and missed with my father. He was just trying to show me his new media center set-up for TV and movie viewing when he got caught up in watching the "Adventures in Time and Space" on it...and I got sucked in watching that too. Later on the two of us had a Who-binge over the holiday season on the more recent episodes. ...and that somewhat launched into a debate about the choice of the next regeneration. I think I found some logic with the choice...however I don't think he likes the new incarnation much. I've yet to see anything new since, so can't say one way or the other about it yet.
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Post by Brandon on Feb 12, 2014 0:14:25 GMT -5
You haven't seen the Christmas special yet? I'd like to hear your thoughts. I'm not sure if I can tell how successful it was as a transition to the next phase in the Doctor's history until I see where it goes next, but it was satisfying for the most part.
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Post by rheasilva on Feb 12, 2014 19:53:26 GMT -5
I think at this point I've seen the Christmas special unless I've missed something still. *laughs* It's been awhile and I've been trying to catch up since I haven't had access to media types either via TV or Netflix until somewhat recently due to finances. All that aside though...to me when I saw the recent regeneration it made me think the writers were going for a type of full clock cycle. Thinking back on the dialog parts that the Doctor himself was stating he wasn't supposed to be able to regenerate anymore and was pretty much on his last life cycle. However...he's a Time Lord and I'm thinking of hours on a clock or watch - the cycle just repeats once it gets to the last number and counts up all over again, at least in my opinion.
It was all pretty fresh in mind since my father and I had a mini-binge of Doctor Who and the specials. I couldn't help but think back to the "Adventures in Time and Space" feature about the 1st Doctor and the origins of the TV show itself. So when they introduced the new incarnation at the end of this season and instead of a younger face it's an older one - makes me consider that the writers are in their own way starting the cycle over again too. The 1st Doctor was a bit more of a grumpy older gentleman and I'm wondering if this newest version of the Doctor will be somewhat similar. Each actor adds their own trait or quirk in their version or portal of the Doctor so I may be off in this line of logic. To me it makes an odd kind of sense. One cycle of the clock completed so now it starts all over again from the 1st hour.
I...could also be reading waaaay too much into this thought process as well. *chuckles* I have a knack for that.
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Post by Brandon on Feb 13, 2014 19:06:12 GMT -5
I think you are spot on with your assessment. It seemed very much like a fresh start all the way around. One cycle wraps on the 50th anniversary and another one begins anew. I have no prior experience with Capaldi so I'm still curious how this new Doctor will be.
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Post by rheasilva on Feb 13, 2014 21:32:41 GMT -5
I have to admit I'm a bit apprehensive about the casting for the new Doctor. Though I honestly can't say I've seen Capaldi in anything prior to really say yeh/neh for the casting choice. Seeing as I'm usually behind in episodes it'll probably be a bit after the first new episode airs before I can gauge an opinion. It'll be interesting to see for certain.
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Post by Admin on Feb 14, 2014 15:00:05 GMT -5
I've seen Capaldi in a few things and I'm really happy with the choice (and it's nice to have a Doctor that's older than me again).
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Post by HoM on Feb 14, 2014 17:46:51 GMT -5
I've seen Capaldi in a few things and I'm really happy with the choice (and it's nice to have a Doctor that's older than me again). This. Apart for the age bit. I'm young, dammit. I'M YOUNG
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Post by rheasilva on Feb 14, 2014 22:43:53 GMT -5
*chuckles* Age is a matter of perspective.
Random tangent: Before I was actually able to see Day of the Doctor I know I ran across a lot of old threads and back-and-forth dating months prior to the actual confirmation of casting. I was just wondering if anyone thought that there could have been something extra added that wasn't (or maybe even could have been taken out) that would have made this episode even better - or was it just right as it played out in the end?
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Post by Brandon on Feb 15, 2014 12:50:03 GMT -5
It's a complicated bit of retconning they did for Gallifrey to re-emerge (by not really ever being gone) and have all of the stories in the new series still make sense. It really isn't anything too difficult for modern comics and sci-fi fans to digest though. I'm willing to forgive any little inconsistencies in continuity (I'm a superhero comic fan, I have a lot of experience in this, ha) to gain all the story potential of the Doctor having his homeworld back. This will be a new level of Doctor Who storytelling I think. With the resources and complications of having his world again, this is a Doctor that can see large scale dramatics and conflicts with all the different factions that will stand with and against Gallifrey. Can't wait for it!
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Post by rheasilva on Feb 16, 2014 22:07:53 GMT -5
*chuckles* It definitely will be interesting. I think that's what I find so fascinating in the story telling and even in the variations that come through in comics and other media. It seems that's how I tend to find out about the different tangents - where one story or theme overlaps or gives a "nod" to something else like a cross-over or past incident. It makes me want to dig through the older content to...I guess get the joke or reference better. The fact that so many tangents take place and over the course of the years these changes can make sense even with different writers and co-writers adding their touch to the main cast of characters. After so long I would think that it makes it difficult to continue with a fresh story.
I'm wondering how this will change some of the Doctor's attitude and if in turn this will lead to a set-up later on in the newer episodes to lose something equally as devastating. I just wonder what kind of price would be exacted for this resolution that played out in the Day of the Doctor. I was looking back at some older episodes this weekend and I can't believe that this series has run so long and that it almost never got a real chance to take off like this.
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Post by Brandon on Feb 17, 2014 20:48:06 GMT -5
It's always fun to get into any fictional universe with a deep history. I'm glad Doctor Who has managed to go so long and still maintain one continuity more or less. Other long standees like Star Trek have already gone into reboot. But part of what is great about Who is the regeneration process to keep it fresh. Brilliant.
And to be honest, I think the show was hindered for a long time by a small budget. The stories can finally take on a larger scope.
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Post by rheasilva on Feb 18, 2014 18:59:46 GMT -5
If I recall from bits I'd read they weren't expected to really take off, kinda a filler time slot show. Which is far from what it's become now. I kinda wonder how much to the true facts the Adventures in Time and Space movie kept to some incidents during the origins of the show. Such as how regeneration came about as the idea to replace the original actor instead of letting the show die out with the inability for the 1st doctor to continue. It's an interesting idea and I like how the series itself in general didn't appear to be required to have it's new season out in the same manner as American TV. At some points it seems like shows in the US are just cranked out with little attention to detail in which they have to retcon story segments later down the line. Each new author that's brought in to add to the continuing story of Doctor Who pays attention to what was done before (sometimes there's hiccups but for the most part they're forgivable ones) and broadens the boundaries for the characters.
Sometimes reboots work, other times they don't...I'm kinda split on the concept of a reboot in series - guess it depends on a case-by-case basis for me. I agree, I like how this show hasn't had a reboot - I guess that's the advantage of being able to regenerate your main character to have different personality quirks. I honestly can't think of many series out there that covers enough scientific theory that you can find books that can toss some of the probable outcomes on established science into debate. I'm not sure if many of the authors for the scripts intended for it to evolve as it has - it's got a life of its own. Can you believe this was intended as a children's show?
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Post by Brandon on Feb 18, 2014 23:31:38 GMT -5
Now I'm going to have to watch Adventures in Time and Space. I'd watched the 50th anniversary shows - even the Five(ish) Doctors - but never managed to watch Adventures. I guess I've been mulling about and catching up on other shows when I still have some Who to watch. Not to mentioned I never finished watching Torchwood either!
The seasons seem to work differently on British television. I know in the older shows they would stretch a story out over several episodes, and the seasons followed the necessities of the story more than being locked into a set number of episodes in US television while shying away from seasonal arcs until shows like Buffy showed the strength in doing so.
I think it's great that Doctor Who has been able to straddle the line between the adult and youth entertainment. It's funny because it totally is 'hide behind the sofa' still for younger viewers. I know that Matt Smith really managed to catch on with a younger audience (the merchandise has been everywhere), so again I'm interested if they can maintain that with an older Capaldi. I do think you are correct though. They very much seemed to skew older again it seems with this next cycle of regenerations. Will they go younger again as they progress?
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