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Post by Admin on Jan 15, 2008 15:30:54 GMT -5
Please let us know what you think!
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Post by walnutcookie on Jan 16, 2008 9:56:17 GMT -5
Another great issue. I particularly love Alfred's interaction with Chloe, and then later, Alfred's chiding of Bruce at the funeral. Alfred is one freakin' awesome butler. I'm glad he still has his head.
I also thought you played out Tim's tragedy very well. There's so much room for his development now with the way you've set things up between him and Bruce, and I look forward to seeing where you take them.
Walnutcookie
Oh, and I've got a spiffy cover coming for you very, very soon.
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Post by RocketeerZ on Jan 16, 2008 13:38:55 GMT -5
Wonderful. A totally riviting and satisfying ending to a GREAT arc.
Your hold on the characters is very strong. Alfred especially. His unwavering insistance upon Bruce about Tim's future was perfectly written. The reappearance of the Clown Prince of Crime put a nice capper on the end of the story.
When the bullets ripped into Tim, for a split second I was wondering... 'would Brian throw a total curve ball here and ventilate Tim or does he have something on under that Jacket'?... glad to see it was the latter and the mystery of just WHO the assassian who killed his mother was is a tale I'll be looking very forward to reading.
And that ending... could we be in for a little taste of Ra's al Ghul?
Another fantastic job Bri. Cannot heap enough praise over it.
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Post by starlord on Jan 17, 2008 21:23:38 GMT -5
Another great issue. I particularly love Alfred's interaction with Chloe, and then later, Alfred's chiding of Bruce at the funeral. Alfred is one freakin' awesome butler. I'm glad he still has his head. I'm glad you liked it, and that you liked Alred's stuff. He is obviously one of my favorite's. And I'm glad he has his head, too. I hoped Tim's story was well received. I was a bit nervous about that, and there is much more to this story... and a possible tie in with another DC2 book. I can't wait to see it! And thanks for reading and commenting!
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Post by starlord on Jan 17, 2008 21:29:18 GMT -5
Wonderful. A totally riviting and satisfying ending to a GREAT arc. To quote Dragonbat... *blush* I guess that Alfred moment really sold. I wrote that a while ago when I was plotting this out and I'm glad it worked. The Joker's appearance is something that actually has happened already in the last Batman (check it out because Grant is awesome and we have something really awesome coming up!) And it's a tale that I can't wait to write. It actually grew a bit organically out of this story, and I'm looking forward to finishing that story... eventually... I'm not a fan of Ra's al Ghul. One of the few, I know. But that's a good guess. I thank you very much, Sir. It means a lot!
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Post by capeandcowl on Jan 18, 2008 2:48:05 GMT -5
B;
Brilliant stuff man. You're upping up the game around here and have caused me to rethink Batman 26 a bit.
Bad Ass!
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Post by lissilambe on Jan 18, 2008 20:33:46 GMT -5
A solid and entertaining conclusion. If you can call it that. Mind you, there's no real ending here, but as a fan of the wonderfully soap opera-esque comics of my youth, that's not a bad thing. LOL
I enjoyed just about all of the story. Jack's death was as sad as it should have been (even if the cliche of his dying before getting the important information out made me cough a bit); Tim's intelligence and practicality on display made me very happy. He's always been a savvy kid, good to see it here. The twists with Joker and Ra's are nicely played out, and the removal of the criminal status quo should make for some fantastic stories after the next big story is up and out of the way. Can't wait for that.
Still not a fan of the DEO's presence in this tale. It felt tacked on, but at least we got to see a great scene with Chloe and Alfred. Both characters got played up nicely there.
And unlike the others, I wasn't a fan of Alfred's confrontation with Bruce over Tim's fate either. But then, I'm not a fan of the Vulcan-esque "Bat-General" loner and paranoid that most others are, so for me, it rang false. Granted, Alfred's lines made the scene better than it could have been for me, but it didn't work.
Still, a very good conclusion to this storyline, and I look forward to what's up on the horizon.
Take care Don
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Post by arcalian on Jan 18, 2008 22:42:12 GMT -5
Of course, Jack's death is unfortunate. But I will say, you handled it better than the whole "Obeah Man" and "Identity Crisis" storylines did in official DC, where Tim's parents are concerned.
Tim himself, of course, is beautifully written, as is the Alfred/Chloe sequence and the Gordon/Batman/Two-Face argument.
This may be a small point, but I also liked the Two-Face/Black Mask fight; I love villain rivalries. and the small tie-in with Outsiders.
And if that's not Ra's, then who the heck is it?!?
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Post by starlord on Jan 19, 2008 1:12:00 GMT -5
B; Brilliant stuff man. You're upping up the game around here and have caused me to rethink Batman 26 a bit. Bad Ass! Thanks Grant! I think you've been setting the bar on raising the game here, I'm just trying my best to keep up with you! Now, let's really knock their socks off!
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Post by starlord on Jan 19, 2008 1:34:21 GMT -5
A solid and entertaining conclusion. If you can call it that. Mind you, there's no real ending here, but as a fan of the wonderfully soap opera-esque comics of my youth, that's not a bad thing. LOL ;D I think we come from the same youth, Don. I think one of the things that drew me into comics at such a young age was the serial/soap-operish way they were done. And obviously by the way I write Tec, GA, and NO, I guess that is pretty apparent. That was the only cliche that made you cough??? My friend, that whole scene should have made you choke. LOL! Jack's death bed confession was, for me, the weakest part of this issue. It was very cliche, so hey! At that point, why not go for the whole kit and caboodle. Since it's no secret that introducing Tim has made me more than a little nervous, I'm very humbled on how well he has been received. I always believed that Tim was the most practical of the three, and I'm glad that is coming across. Oh Don, not you too? I guess I can see why it would appear to be Ra's, but really, he's not a character I've ever been that impressed with. The Joker on the other hand... heh heh heh. Yeah, it fell flat for me, as well. Except for the way the scene's played out between her and Alfred. I have to agree with you on that one. However, this also may be the start of many more appearances of Chloe Sullivan in the entire DC2 Universe. Okay, this really did make me laugh out loud and (with no malice whatsoever) make me roll my eyes. I can't think of another single character that has such a huge divide of fans expectations. There's the David camp who believes he should be the loner/General character. (Speaking of which, where have you been buddy, I miss you!), and then there's the Ellen camp that believes in the slightly softer and more family oriented Bat. And of course there's the Ramon camp who likes the swearing, totally whacked out Bats. Perhaps my run on this series hasn't been all I've hoped it was, since I've tried desperatly to show that he's a little bit of all of them. I've tried to show him compassionate and caring in his own way (his thank you's last issue to Leslie and Tim. His fear of losing Alfred), and the cold and dark knight who believed at that moment that Tim was better off in an orphanage. He's not perfect (although he may think he is) and sometimes what he believes is the best might not be right - especially when it comes to matters that are more on a personal basis. I hope you enjoy what coming as much, if not more, than you did this arc. Thank you for responding!
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Post by starlord on Jan 19, 2008 1:43:43 GMT -5
Of course, Jack's death is unfortunate. But I will say, you handled it better than the whole "Obeah Man" and "Identity Crisis" storylines did in official DC, where Tim's parents are concerned. Thank you Jay. I never was a huge fan of the way Jack was written out, either. There are also many questions yet to be answered and I'm hoping I'll have time to answer all of them before my time here is at an end. Glad you liked those scenes. The Gordon/Batman/Two-Face scene was another one I was a bit nervous about. But I really felt that if Two-Face was going to finally be caught, it just made sense that it would be the three of them in the end. Yeah, a little villain rivalry is fun to do. Personally, I was surprised they hung on as long as they did. Also, keep an eye on the Outsiders, because something will happen in Vegas soon that will may just bring Tim's story a bit closer to that team. AHHH! Finally! The perfect question to ask! If it isn't Ra's, then who the heck is it?! ;D Thank you for reading, and responding, my friend! As always, it means a lot!
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Post by HoM on Jan 19, 2008 12:39:52 GMT -5
The characterisation was spot on, the character moments between Alfred and Chloe superb, and Alfred's treatment of Bruce was spot on too. You're doing good things with this book Brian, as always. How many issues has this storyline been going on now? It's insane! Loving it as always, a worthy finale, and those epilogues? Whoa.
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Post by starlord on Jan 20, 2008 5:08:29 GMT -5
Thanks Charlie! I'm glad you enjoyed it. This arc went from isssue's 21-26, about one issue more than I had expected, actually. The fact that it was able to bleed right into the next cross-over story was a stroke of luck, actually. Thanks for reading and responding, buddy! It is always good to hear from you.
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Post by mouseman on Jan 21, 2008 2:38:08 GMT -5
This is probably my second favorite story you've written here. Right behind Huntress/Vigilante in New Outsiders.
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Post by starlord on Jan 21, 2008 12:44:47 GMT -5
Thank you. That means a lot.
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Post by Susan Hillwig on Jan 24, 2008 21:00:27 GMT -5
Congratulations, you pulled the wool over my eyes real good in this storyarc. First you made me think Jack was a bad guy (which surprised me, but it was an intersting twist) then you made me think Alfred was dead (thank the Lord he's not!). Lies, all lies! And I bought it! Good job, my man! Very twisty-turny, these last two issues were. Lots going on, and it was all done so well...and yes, deathbed confessions are very cliche, but writers wouldn't keep using them if they didn't work, now would they? ;D
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Post by starlord on Jan 24, 2008 22:30:53 GMT -5
Congratulations, you pulled the wool over my eyes real good in this storyarc. First you made me think Jack was a bad guy (which surprised me, but it was an intersting twist) then you made me think Alfred was dead (thank the Lord he's not!). Lies, all lies! And I bought it! Good job, my man! Very twisty-turny, these last two issues were. Lots going on, and it was all done so well...and yes, deathbed confessions are very cliche, but writers wouldn't keep using them if they didn't work, now would they? ;D Thanks Susan! I'm glad you enjoyed it and were able to get some surprises from it. I did enjoy writing this arc, so I'm glad it was well received.
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Post by oblique on Feb 4, 2017 12:45:26 GMT -5
Brian Burchette, you have almost succeeded in making me like Tim Drake, which is no small accomplishment! Detective Comics #21 to #26 were full of twists and turns that all came together in this issue. You have a great grasp of the characters (particularly Alfred) and it was great to see Gordon and Batman working together. The introduction of Chloe and the DEO really helped tie these events in Gotham into the fabric of the DC2 Universe, and prevented that lingering question I always get when reading comics ("Why doesn't the government step in when these freaks are terrifying the city?")
I did choke a little bit when Tim Drake went looking for his dad (those meddling kids...) and the consequent murder, shooting, and deathbed confession were a bit on the nose. But the mending and epilogues fit the melodramatic issue well. Somehow, I'm interesting in seeing more of "Young Master Drake," and that's a compliment.
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Post by HoM on Feb 6, 2017 12:24:45 GMT -5
Brian Burchette, you have almost succeeded in making me like Tim Drake, which is no small accomplishment! Detective Comics #21 to #26 were full of twists and turns that all came together in this issue. You have a great grasp of the characters (particularly Alfred) and it was great to see Gordon and Batman working together. The introduction of Chloe and the DEO really helped tie these events in Gotham into the fabric of the DC2 Universe, and prevented that lingering question I always get when reading comics ("Why doesn't the government step in when these freaks are terrifying the city?") I did choke a little bit when Tim Drake went looking for his dad (those meddling kids...) and the consequent murder, shooting, and deathbed confession were a bit on the nose. But the mending and epilogues fit the melodramatic issue well. Somehow, I'm interesting in seeing more of "Young Master Drake," and that's a compliment. I think Tim Drake's origins have been fuzzy across the years. He's a character who came about when adaptation and different interpretations was rife, so you had the mainstream version, the animated version... we've had a couple of reboots and rebirths, so having a 'seminal' interpretation has been difficult. Do you even know what Red Robin's origin is over in the New 52? I have no clue. So seeing our version have something so sad, so tragic, and it be so straightforward and effective... I think that's so important. Tim Drake-- and later Tim Wayne-- is a vital part of the DC2. And Brian did great work bringing him into being!
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