Enterprise NCC 1701-D vs. the Millennium Falcon

hmm... I must have missed the part where a Wookie tore someone's arms off... maybe you just have an overactive and violent imagination. Well folks, it'll happen when one hits the bottle a little too hard. ESPECIALLY a 12 year old. Klingons are warriors, they don't spend their days getting drunk and partying in treehouses.

The difference though, is that whereas those Star Wars captains were apart of a heartless sterile empire that was intent on ruling the galaxy, the Star Trek captains are willing to make more creative strategical moves. I mean short of "fire cannons" what did those ships DO to take on the Falcon? Nothing, they were mindless villains, the Trek officers were more open to creative ways of dealing with situations.

Not nice, but apparently funny since you laughed... out loud even!

THANKS, H, YOU'RE A PAL!

Hey hey hey, just because you get a little angry when you drink, there is no need to call people names like idiot, I don't do that to you so don't do it to me and be civil, okay? This is polite time Imari, if you don't behave we can make you sit in an e-corner for time out.

Thrawn? You call Thrawn evil? That guy was a light weight and not very sharp. Meanwhile Picard took on the Borg and the Q and the Romulans and the Ferengi as well as a host of other space threats that would give that "creepy, evil, most villainous evil villain that ever was" nightmares. He overcame obstacles far greater then a rebel uprising and he did it peacefully for the most part and always with honor and integrity so comparing the Federation to the Empire is not a fair analogy.

I need proof of that Wookie arm ripping. A video, a picture, an excerpt from a book, something otherwise they don't rip peoples arms off despite the fact that they might possess the brute strength to do so.

Argh, yes, I think i read it wrong and just started typing it like that.

Star Wars has Vader. Picard would be choked out before he can say 'Engage' or 'Make it so'

Vader would of of been commiting genocide on them.

He's not the 'CREEPIEST, EVILEST, most VILLAINOUS evil villain that ever was' until you read the BOOKS. Like Timothy Zahn's trilogy... in THAT, he is creepy *shudder*. He put up a good fight to the best pilots and planners in the New Republic. At least when Zahn made him a worthy Star Wars villain, Thrawn posed as much a danger as Vader did. He was capable of creating those creative maneuvers that Ramon is so hungry for.

'The difference though, is that whereas those Star Wars captains were apart of a heartless sterile empire that was intent on ruling the galaxy, the Star Trek captains are willing to make more creative strategical moves. I mean short of "fire cannons" what did those ships DO to take on the Falcon? Nothing, they were mindless villains, the Trek officers were more open to creative ways of dealing with situations.'

Again, look into Zahn's books, V.

AND WOOKIES HAD TO GET THEIR REPUTATION FROM SOMEWHERE!!!!!!! Han Solo SAID they rip people's arms off... and c'mon, woulda smuggler like Solo lie?

Dang if he knew you were gonna get so defensive he wouldna made the poll to begin with. You act like Ramon's opinion matters to you or something...

Hey shouldn't a girl your age be playing with barbies still?

I simply don't want the poor lad to be disillusioned.

And nope. All doll conversation between my younger cousins, nieces, sister, and her friends comes to a halt the minute I walk in a room, and all little girls STARE until I leave. Doll talk must be very confidential.

And besides...Barbies are sooooo early nineties. Don't you know that Bratz are ALL the rage now? So says my very hip and knowledgable little sister, who, when she was about 5, told Mom and I that 'Chocolate is her destiny and she's allergic to cheap jewelry.' How can you argue with someone like that?

Han Solo saved Luke's ass when Vader was about to fry him. Klingons would be extinct because of Vader.

Mischief

I'm sorry, could one of your nineteen personalities tell me why the heck Vader's name is even being called into question now? If we just wanna start pulling from the entire universe, The Q or the Borg could OWN Vader. The Q wouldn't even have to try really, if they wanted to just at some point pluck him out of the cozy confines of his armour and let him suffer miserably untill he turned all pale in the face and died without any of that life support his helmet provided, it wouldn't even take them the snap of a finger to disassemble his helmet and all that nonsense and make it so. Furthermore the Borg could assimilate them. Yes, for awhile the they could fight them off, but every time one gets chopped by a light saber or hit by a blaster, the collective alters their programming to deal with that the next time they see some lame Jedi running around in drag playing with a magic glow stick. Then you can't even try to match the Death Star with the awesomeness of the Borg cube... resistance is futile!

okay... I'm done.

Sigh, I wasn't even going to response but...



So they are big and bad, the one thing you seem to be forgetting is that despite all that, the Klingon's are warriors, they are born as warriors and if they have any honor at all, they die as warriors. Internally, Klingon anatomy was markedly different from that of Humans. There is a great deal more multiple redundancy in their organs, a principle they call brak'lul. This allowed Klingons to survive severe injuries in battle. They had twenty three ribs, two livers, an eight chambered heart, three lungs, and even redundant neural function and multiple stomachs. Some geneticists believed that the extra organs, notably the third lung, evolved to give Klingons greater stamina on the battlefield. Surprisingly, Klingons had relatively little knowledge of their own biology and their medicine is very poorly developed. This was largely due to their warrior traditions – a Klingon who is wounded was expected to be left to survive or die through his own strength, or to undergo the hegh'bat, a form of ritual suicide. See? They are BUILT for war, just because Wookies are bigger and furrier doesn't make them invincible in the eyes of a Klingon, they are like Spartans.



Hm... how would the Enterprise handle a problem with trees I wonder?


And that's just the Enterprise, Klingons have no rules prohibitting doing that whenever they felt like during a war.


umm... what's that really have to do with anything? So Han solo is like Don King to Chewbacca's unintelligible Mike Tyson...? Am I missing something that's supposed to make that change my opinion on the matter?

Yeah, that's just what Grand Moff Tarkin said too...

(Though I must say, I am impressed by the amount of thought you've given this whole debate. It's kinda scary, even.)

Wolverine wins.