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Post by brigante133 on Jul 13, 2007 17:33:11 GMT -5
Given that today is not only the birthday of Patrick Stewart but ALSO Harrison Ford, I thought I would set up a poll in their honor but how can you compare the coolness of Picard to the coolness of Han Solo?! You can't, they don't even have the same measurements of temperature. I'm pretty sure in 2363 there will be different units then a long time ago in a galaxy far far away... however they both had really cool space ships so lets just vote on that instead!
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Post by David on Jul 13, 2007 18:12:20 GMT -5
(Ramon makes the funnest polls!)
I vote the Falcon. True, it's a hunk of junk, and would not stand a chance against the Enterprise, but the question is which is cooler... it's like comparing a 1965 Mustang to an '07 Lexus. Sure the Lexus'll probably wipe the floor with it, but which is more fun to drive (and will get all the girls)?
;D
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Post by HoM on Jul 13, 2007 18:30:34 GMT -5
The Mustang. OH! OH, I mean the Enterprise. Yeah, I actually think the Enterprise would wipe the floor with the Falcon, as come on, PICARD!!! But in all honesty, the better ship? The Falcon. Forever always. And not to spite Kalin, no way
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Post by arcalian on Jul 13, 2007 18:38:48 GMT -5
Well, if it came to a fight, the Falcon would simply dodge and weave around the Enterprise until it's phaser banks were exhausted; same as it would an Imperial Star Destroyer or any other big clunky capital ship.
Given that it's Picard, though, talking would actually be feasible. The hard part would be for him to convince Han he wasn't interestred in boarding and confiscating....
Now if it was Kirk and the old Enterprise, on the other hand, Han would have to lead him into an asteroid field.
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Post by darkknight814 on Jul 13, 2007 19:10:39 GMT -5
all Picard has to do is do the Picard Maneuver and boom Han and the hunka junk is dead.
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Post by starlord on Jul 13, 2007 19:49:08 GMT -5
the Falcon.
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Post by arcalian on Jul 13, 2007 19:54:15 GMT -5
The Picard Maneuver only works against a hunka junk capital ship that sits in one place long enough to be hit by it. You'd never get a coordinate lock on to the Falcon in the first place.
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Post by Lantern Lad on Jul 13, 2007 20:00:36 GMT -5
I would go with either the Falcon or NCC-1701 (movie version before the big blow up in ST3). 1701-A doesn't count because I'm pretty sure it was just a re-christened USS Constitution.
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Post by batkid on Jul 13, 2007 22:24:44 GMT -5
Omigosh, there's two things here I can't believe.
One is that Kalin hasn't bombed the thread yet, or killed Ramon for even thinking about setting up such a poll.
And two is that anyone in their right mind (of course that makes up for Ramon) would NOT choose the Falcon. I mean, I love Star Trek, but c'mon, Jay's right... the Falcon would win, just as it does against any other ship... it's the fastest, bestest (don't let Ellen see that!) ship in ANY galaxy.
Plus, Han Solo is just waaaaay better and kewler than Picard. By like a lot.
When a crew member tells Picard the damage to the Enterprise, he thinks for a minute.... double checks his thinking... and then decides whether to keep fighting or retreat.
Han says, "Never tell me the odds."
The choice is obvious.... Han is the kewler pilot; Falcon is the kewler ship.
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Post by brigante133 on Jul 13, 2007 22:55:06 GMT -5
Enterprise is cooler in any incarnation but this one even more so because... LOOK at it! It's so cool looking and the Falcon looks like... well it looks like a smuggler ship.
Also, I'm pretty sure the Enterprise is faster then the Falcon. It may be bigger, and the little thing could weave around it, but the Enterprise is still faster. It could at times transcend the time barrier I don't recall the Falcon ever doing something like that.
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Post by batkid on Jul 13, 2007 23:04:21 GMT -5
DON'T DISS THE FALCON, RAMON.
And it looks awesome. Wouldn't have it any other way.
It's the fastest ship in the galaxy. Deal with it.
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Post by brigante133 on Jul 13, 2007 23:30:02 GMT -5
It's okay for a common lowlife dirt bag criminal, I guess.
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Post by arcalian on Jul 13, 2007 23:48:05 GMT -5
The Entreprise is faster in a straightaway point a to b. And the time travel stuff always about mucking about with the warp engines.
The Falcon, on the other hand, can turn on a dime without any "Picard Maneuvers".
I'd rather Han the criminal than any Starfleet suit.
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Post by batkid on Jul 14, 2007 0:30:46 GMT -5
YAY, JAY!
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Post by Mr Clown on Jul 14, 2007 0:56:38 GMT -5
Odd, I thought I'd already posted this but; The Enterprise could pwn the Falcon any day of the week. It's faster, more powerful, better shields, and is just plain cooler in comparison. Oh, and Han is a noob in comparison to Picard, Kirk, and even Archer. And Chewey would get his butt handed to him by Warf, Spock, and... K, Chewey could take any member of Archer's crew but two out of three aint bad!!
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Post by arcalian on Jul 14, 2007 10:47:47 GMT -5
Odd, I thought I'd already posted this but; The Enterprise could pwn the Falcon any day of the week. It's faster, more powerful, better shields, and is just plain cooler in comparison. Oh, and Han is a noob in comparison to Picard, Kirk, and even Archer. And Chewey would get his butt handed to him by Warf, Spock, and... K, Chewey could take any member of Archer's crew but two out of three aint bad!! *chuckle* Um....no. Not even close. The Enterprises, all of them, are capital ships. The Falcon was designed to run rings around those kind of vessels, and that's before all of Han's modifications. I'll take Han over any three Trek captains together in any kind of fight. But if you wanna be smart, send Picard; because Picard will talk to him instead of fighting him. Which would be the smart thing to do. Worf over Chewie? Again, no. Data over Chewie, maybe. Worf, no. But Worf would understand and respect Chewbacca as a fellow warrior anyhow; they'd get along. I keep wanting GL Hal Jordan to meet Han, though. That would be interesting. Not a fight, but the like and yet unlike of their personalities. (And all of the above comparisons assume Luke isn't along for the ride in the Falcon, in which case, the Force pwns you and it's game over. Remember always: Doctor Who first, Star Wars second, Trek a dim, distant, dismal third.)
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Post by brigante133 on Jul 14, 2007 13:07:01 GMT -5
it could run rings around the vessel but really for how long? The Enterprises shields would be able to withstand the attack from a little ship like the falcon and eventually it might even be able to put a tractor beam on it. if not that, it would take one attack from the enterprise to take out the falcon and until then the falcon would just be an annoying little chihuahua nipping at the heels of a friggin' woolly mammoth. And come one, the Falcon was never very stable, how long could that thing really last without han or chewy having to fix it mid fight leaving them open for attack?
And Han may be able to take Picard in a fight but Picard doesn't fight, he has people do that for him, it's just not what he does.
Worf could totally take Chewy in a fight. Worf is an expert at both bat'leth and mek'leth where as Chewbacca yells and hits things...
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Post by HoM on Jul 14, 2007 13:18:00 GMT -5
Don't chuckle Jay, acknowledge peoples opinion, but don't chuckle in the face of them... I'ts kind of patronising... And I should know, I did it a lot myself... But Worf Vs Chewi? WORF. Bat'leth (sp?) anyone?
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Post by arcalian on Jul 14, 2007 15:06:08 GMT -5
I did say Picard would talk to Han which was more sensible. That's why I brought that up.
Chewbacca could break a bat'leth with one hand.
Falcon would run rings around the enterprise until the Enterprise's phaser and photon banks are exhausted. then it just nibbles away at the Enterprises shields until they fall, game over. As for the Enterprise tractoring them in, well first of all it's not the Death Star and doesn't have that kind of power, and second even if they managed it, it would work about as well for them in the long run as it did for the Death Star crew.
Edit: I take your point Charlie. This is my last post on the subject. (Trying not to antagonize Ramon here, really....)
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Post by brigante133 on Jul 14, 2007 15:37:48 GMT -5
haha, its cool, I'm not taking it personally. that said. YOU'RE DEAD WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING YOU ARE SAYING HERE AND I'LL HATE YOU FOREVER AND EVER AND EVER AND EVER! Hab SoSlI' Quch! ;D and now that THAT's out of the way... Assuming they weren't fighting and reading the initial question as to which is cooler, I stand by the fact that the Enterprise is ten times more awesome then the Falcon. The Enterprise has a holodeck and a bar and ROOMS and the android on board the holodeck is far more awesome then to two little loser droids on board the Falcon. Really, at this point I could care less about which could win if they battled (even though its the Enterprise )and I'm basing my decision on which would be cooler to travel in. Enterprise just has it. oh and Chewbacca got captured by a couple Stormtroopers, Klingons would rather die then be held hostage!
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Post by David on Jul 14, 2007 15:54:17 GMT -5
Chewbacca would dominate Worf.
The Falcon wouldn't last long against the Enterprise, probably, but the question is which is cooler: and that is the Falcon!
Aren't you guys glad I'm around to settle these questions...?
;D
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Post by brigante133 on Jul 14, 2007 15:59:09 GMT -5
No, because you were wrong on both fronts.
Chewbacca would get dominated by Worf, Krell, and damn near any other Klingon he would be foolish enough to face in combat.
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Post by Mr Clown on Jul 14, 2007 20:50:16 GMT -5
I'll agree with Brig again, The Enterprise is cooler to travel on. Hell, you'd probably get some kind of VD from using The Falcon's bathrooms for crying out loud. Has that hunk of junk ever been cleaned? So for power, speed, hygene, and especially company, The Enterprise is better than The Millenium Falcon on all fronts... And Chewey would still get his butt kicked by Worf.
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Post by David on Jul 14, 2007 22:31:11 GMT -5
Ummm... Do you guys know what "cool" means...?
And Chewbacca would rip off Worf's arms and beat him to death with them.
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Post by The Anti-Tupper on Jul 14, 2007 22:43:18 GMT -5
Holy smokes do you guys talk about weird things here sometimes!
But seriously, Chewbacca would beat Worf. I like Worf, Worf is the Shaft of the Klingon Empire, but Chewy is a Wookie. He's like a bear that thinks for god's sake. You know MF-in' Chewy is packin' some claws up in there. It'd be a great battle, but today would be a good day to die...for Worf.
Oh and I don't know about you fools, but I'd rather fly around in a spacecraft with a nice padded chair, 24/7 bar access, hot and cold runnin' Yeomans, my own office, a room that basically makes anything you want into reality, a device that gives you any kind of food you want, a hot doctor (back then anyway) and some sembalance of design theory, than a ship that looks like sewage pipes welded together than can't even do the kessel run in more than 6 parsects.
Oh and Dave, this is a thread discussing which nerd show has the better spaceship. The only way it can be considered cool is if your computer is located in your icebox or refrigerator.
A. Tupp....OUT!
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Post by brigante133 on Jul 14, 2007 23:30:43 GMT -5
In Worf's free time he would do his Klingon calisthenics in the holodeck which included him killing beasts Chewbacca's size for fun. Chewbaccas size advantage and the fact that he has claws doesn't mean he is unbeatable especially to a Klingon warrior like Worf.
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Post by starlord on Jul 15, 2007 3:05:13 GMT -5
the Falcon. And I say that being a huge Star Trek geek. But the Falcon is just so much cooler. although I can't seperate Han from the ship, so that might be part of it for me.
As for Chewie and Worf. I think they'd both come out of it a bloody mess and then end up drinking together until they both passed out.
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Post by David on Jul 15, 2007 7:14:39 GMT -5
I'm sure the Golden Girls would be very comfortable on the Enterprise, but you have to ask yourself: which ship would Fonzi fly in?
(I'm talking James Dean-looking Fonzi from season 1, not shark-jumping, Chachi-lovin' Fonzi)
"Cool" is not about comfort or performance--- it's about "edge". Didja ever see those ridiculous arguments on the DCMBs about Batman being able to defeat Superman (or Darkseid or Galactus, etc) if "he had enough time to prepare"? Same thing here. No way does the Falcon got pwned by any ship, including the Enterprise, with Han Solo at the helm (or even Lando, for that matter).
It just violates the law of cool.
Here endeth the lesson.
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Post by Mischief on Jul 15, 2007 12:37:06 GMT -5
The Entreprise is faster in a straightaway point a to b. And the time travel stuff always about mucking about with the warp engines. The Falcon, on the other hand, can turn on a dime without any "Picard Maneuvers". I'd rather Han the criminal than any Starfleet suit. Exalt to Jay...oh no...the internet going to collapse. Mischief
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Post by Mischief on Jul 15, 2007 12:38:46 GMT -5
The Falcon all the way. Plus no one blow up the Falcon and got it destroyed.
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