The Flash

Did they mean Jay or the Flash that popped up in IC? At this point it's impossible to tell what they are going to do. I decided to quit trying to guess and just wait for the No. 1.

in that preview it says FLASH BACK. and the words he is thinking are the speed force is no more. if there is flash, there is most likely the force. i think its not going to be jay. no way. no jay.

Barry!

Okay, but Barry is really still out there, isn't he? So technically is he actually dead?

I've just recently started collecting some of the Flash trades and one on order is the return of Barry Allen.

KSM, you're loyalty to the Silver Age is admirable.

Weak, weak, weak and then-- Oh. Mildly strong. This latest issue, #6, really ties up some stuff, but also develops new plots that I can't wait to be developed (who's the new writer going to be again?)... And Bart seems to grow up and become a man in this issue more than the previous five! Didn't he seem whiney, didn't he seem stupid, but in this we see why Barry, Jay ( ), Wally and the others sent him back to stop Superboy-Prime. Bart Allen, like his grandfather, is true hero material!

And it looks like Silver Age Earth 2 this time. By god we'll Barry back one way or another! ;D

So, you people may already know what happened in the 13th issue of this new run. What do you think?

BELOW: SPOILERS AND OPINION




Barry died saving the universe by destroying a mass murdering weapon.
Wally saves the universe and doesn't die, by trapping a really powerful villain in another dimension.
Bart dies kicked by the Rogues, while gaining time for his girlfriend to save the West Coast.

I'm mad. I really am. Although there are a few good lines in the comic, everything was disastrous. I mean, awful characterization from the Rogues, not even a great threat and the same sad grown up Bart from this run, nothing like his fun past self, Impulse.

If you forget who Bart was, and wipe from your mind anything you knew about the Rogues being not just a criminal threat, it still is mediocre.

Maybe this was the Flash that DC told us not to get attached with, but how could we? This wasn't our Bart, not even Kid Flash.

Opinions? Thoughts?

Geoff Johns evolved the character from Impulse into Kid Flash. I took Kid Flash as the kid that realized that he had to grow up. After being shot in the knee by a Jericho possessed Deathstroke, he went to the public library and absorbed all that information. He grew into a different character. He realized that he is apart of a great legacy. The blood legacy of Barry Allen and that is something that Wally West would never be.

Dying at the hands of the Rogue was a shock to me, but his final words really got me in the heart. "Don't know what it feels like, but...but I think I love..."

Then the five panels where Robin is at Titan Towers and receives the news of Bart passing and he drops his cell phone and finally he is sitting on the floor, in disbelief.

"End of the day, you only need to know two things about me. I run fast...and I help people."

"AND COME HE SLOW OR COME HE FAST, IT IS BUT DEATH WHO COMES AT LAST -- SIR WALTER SCOTT (1808)"

REST IN PEACE BART ALLEN

I think this series, from the beginning, was a horrible misstep. Bart had only been Kid Flash for what, 2 years? I was finally starting to like the character again (I loved Impulse and Young Justice back in the day, but the jokes eventually got old). When he became Kid Flash and worked with the new Teen Titans I thought, OK, this makes sense... a natural progression of the character.

Then the Crisis and someone's brilliant idea of removing Wally. I don't think the current series was meant to be a finite series. I think the powers that be knew they F***ed up royally and wanted to appease long time Flash readers.

Now they just went and pissed off all the Bart fans. I know to de-age him would be a stupid idea (even stupider than aging him in the first place) and they knew that a Flash always has to die (why is that anyway? It happened once and suddenly you hear crap like 'Crisises are never good for Flashes').

All I know was that the end of the Lightning Saga in JLA/JSA was unexpected and absolutely awesome! I am so glad it's Wally and not Barry. Barry died to save the universe and if they bring him back it just cheapens that.

OK, I'm done.

Flash is dead, long live the Flash!

Isn't Barry on the rod that Brainiac 5 had in his hands at the end of the Lightning Saga. He got Barry, and Wally was unexpected, as they said. Well, that's what i thought, anyway.

owo

I love the Legion!

Everyone knows that, right?

But Bart died without Speed Force, without dissappearing, without any of the Flash kind of death that is possible to bring them back with lightning or running to other dimensions. Bart was kicked. He couldn't connect to the Speed Force to heal, and that's why Bart died.

And then why would they go to all those Barry related sites? I say they got Barry. Or anyone else, except Bart.

owo

Whose enjoying John's new Flash series? I enjoyed the Secret Origins story (but it was Kollins, so please, tell me why I shouldn't?) and I picked up #1 of the ongoing, but I don't think I'm going to keep picking it up. Barry is a grandfather and they've younged him up some. I don't think I like the idea of the tragedy in his past, but it makes me think that Geoff is a smart operator when he claimed he didn't know Barry's parents were alive (he'd "forgotten") when he himself had used them before. I don't know. I liked the "IF THE FLASH RETURNS BREAK GLASS" moment from Secret Origins, but apart from that... nah, no thanks.

I don't understand why there aren't two Justice League series now. It would make sense for DC to have books pandering to fans of both the new and the old. I wouldn't mind seeing a Titans/90s team with Wally, Kyle, Connor and Donna, Nightwing too, all running around fighting crime. And then you'd have your Big Seven fighting as the "main team" if you deem it, with Ollie and Red Tornado popping up whenever nostalgia deemed it necessary.

I thought Geoff Johns and Jim Lee were going to be launching some kind of Big Seven Justice League book sometime this year-- maybe after Bruce returns-- and have it be bombastic, nostalgic and sunny, and let Robinson have his own team in the ongoing. I know it's not fair, Robinson deserves attention if he's on the main book, but that's what I thought I heard.

Weird.



I know, right? I know it's probably not what you want to hear, but I loved Final Crisis' return of Barry. Without the Zoom intervention, it was brilliant. In time of the greatest crisis the world, the universe, heck, the multiverse, will ever face-- The Flash returns, bursting into life to fight side-by-side with his former sidekick-- now equal-- and beating the God of Evil with a Flash Fact. Come on! That was brilliant! Sure, it diluted his sacrifice because, hey, he's now alive, but really... it didn't need to be anything more. The world was in trouble, and The Flash returns. Done and done. Don't overcomplicate it, don't ruin it. One of Johns' latest trip-ups. He's having more and more recently...