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Post by David on Jun 14, 2007 21:11:11 GMT -5
The DC2 needs your help!
In discussing the evolution of the Justice League after the coming summer crossover ("Justice League Vs. America!", starting soon!), we find ourselves with a new proposal on the table and (without spoiling too much of what is to come) we would like to know if the fans of the site would like to see us explore this new direction.
Essentially, the idea is to expand the League, dividing them into two teams, one based out of the Hall of Justice, the other out of an orbiting satelitte, each headlining a title of their own: The Justice League and Justice League of America. That's right, two titles a month featuring teams of the World's Greatest Heroes!
This poll asks the question: would the readers support this direction?
(To answer any lingering concerns, there is no doubt that these books can indeed be staffed with tremendous creative teams)
This poll is a simple vote of confidence for this proposal. A "Yes" vote means we will go forward with this new status quo, a "No" vote means we will not.
The poll is open to the entire community (including the staff member who have already voted in the poll in the Writers Workshop), and I hope we will get a big response, either way! Members of the DC2, this is your site, your decision!
This poll will close at 9AM EST on June 22, 2007.
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Post by Mr Clown on Jun 14, 2007 23:05:55 GMT -5
Heh, this poll closes the same day I graduate High School. Just a few more days and I'm done.  I'm gonna party so hard, there is a chance I won't be around for the next couple days after the 22nd.  |
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Post by Romans Empire on Jun 14, 2007 23:56:35 GMT -5
I voted yes. But of course I also voted to kill Jason Todd so take that for what its worth.
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Post by Lantern Lad on Jun 15, 2007 1:35:00 GMT -5
I vote nay... One book, one united team. If you increase the number of teams you end up with the X-Men. I say shake up the membership (though the book hasn't been around long enough to warrant a shake up IMO). Either way we go, can someone please fix the Martian Manhunters costume!?!?!  |
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Post by arcalian on Jun 15, 2007 6:16:39 GMT -5
I vote yes. A two branch split is healthy in team books. A four or five branch split....yeah, then you'd have the X men.
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Post by brigante133 on Jun 15, 2007 13:30:56 GMT -5
No. I think splitting it up is not a good idea just because of how many titles we are going to be adding. i know people have stepped up to take on these roles but it doesn't appear that they want to write them but that they are willing to help because the like the idea but once that help runs out what do we have? Two disjointed teams and no one who wants to write either of them.
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Post by David on Jun 15, 2007 15:03:38 GMT -5
No. I think splitting it up is not a good idea just because of how many titles we are going to be adding. i know people have stepped up to take on these roles but it doesn't appear that they want to write them but that they are willing to help because the like the idea but once that help runs out what do we have? Two disjointed teams and no one who wants to write either of them. Ramon, you are basing your vote on the likely outcome of this project failing...? Did you miss this part?: Again, the creative teams are already filled up, thus: JLWritten by a rotating team of Charlie, Michael Hewison (MrClown) and possibly one or two others (including Brian and myself) Covers by Adam Edited by Me JLAWritten by Don Walsh Covers by Babs Edited by Me These are all solid committments. The question isn't can we do this (as I've pointed out, we can), but should we. Unless you have other (unvoiced) objections, I hope you will reconsider your vote. |
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Post by arcalian on Jun 15, 2007 15:05:41 GMT -5
I think as times goes on there will be more new people on this site who will help pick up the slack. Don is a perfect example of that.
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Post by David on Jun 15, 2007 15:22:16 GMT -5
I think as times goes on there will be more new people on this site who will help pick up the slack. Don is a perfect example of that. And Babs! But that's the idea! That's the way we perpertuate the site for years to come! The Old Order passeth and all that, wot...! |
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Post by HoM on Jun 15, 2007 16:02:42 GMT -5
W-We're going... To passeth?
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Post by David on Jun 15, 2007 16:50:22 GMT -5
Some of us have passeth already...!  |
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Post by brigante133 on Jun 15, 2007 18:51:33 GMT -5
now my lunch has passeth.
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Post by Alex on Jun 15, 2007 19:09:43 GMT -5
I vote nay cause I really don't see any reason to do this other than i can be done. I'd prefer one really stong team.
Alex
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Post by Mischief on Jun 15, 2007 20:17:01 GMT -5
I Say Thee Nay. One team with a new roster. Use the K.I.S.S. method for it.
I guess I'm the guy that made it a tie now. 7-7
The 'Chief
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Post by brigante133 on Jun 16, 2007 3:25:24 GMT -5
No. I think splitting it up is not a good idea just because of how many titles we are going to be adding. i know people have stepped up to take on these roles but it doesn't appear that they want to write them but that they are willing to help because the like the idea but once that help runs out what do we have? Two disjointed teams and no one who wants to write either of them. Ramon, you are basing your vote on the likely outcome of this project failing...? Did you miss this part?: Again, the creative teams are already filled up, thus: JLWritten by a rotating team of Charlie, Michael Hewison (MrClown) and possibly one or two others (including Brian and myself) Covers by Adam Edited by Me JLAWritten by Don Walsh Covers by Babs Edited by Me These are all solid committments. The question isn't can we do this (as I've pointed out, we can), but should we. Unless you have other (unvoiced) objections, I hope you will reconsider your vote. I do reconsider it actually.  Unfortunately I already cast my vote so I can't really change it but now that I know people are willing to do it for the right reasons I think it can be a good idea. The one thing I would suggest is that one team has all big three or that they can be in both teams, but don't split them. |
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Post by David on Jun 16, 2007 6:32:29 GMT -5
I do reconsider it actually. Unfortunately I already cast my vote so I can't really change it but now that I know people are willing to do it for the right reasons I think it can be a good idea. The one thing I would suggest is that one team has all big three or that they can be in both teams, but don't split them. Thank you, Ramon! I know it's impossible to change it on the system, but we can take your change of heart into consideration when the final numbers are tallied (if Mark is willing!) and move one vote from the "No" side to the "Yes" side. Also, thanks for the suggestion. The roster is still open for discussion (If and when this passes), and I'm looking forward to hearing what the two creative teams think! |
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Post by aicarlos on Jun 16, 2007 10:17:42 GMT -5
I vote Yes
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Post by l1701e on Jun 16, 2007 13:57:03 GMT -5
Personally, I'm all for it.
I think it could work. There are some that fear that two JLA books could cause the League to lose its luster.
I think if both books had good rosters and good creative teams, the concept could really fly.
A second JLA book will give more characters a chance to shine. Perhaps some characters will even become popular due to a second JLA book. Look what West Coast Avengers did for Hawkeye in Marvel!
The thing you should do is have different jobs for the two JLA books. For example, one could deal with galactic threats, and te other can help deal with more down-home threats.
I'd love to see how you guys pull this off.
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Post by Mr Clown on Jun 16, 2007 14:06:06 GMT -5
With Charlie writing Justice League, I'd vote yes. With ME writing Justice League as well, I'm like YES!!! I'm not trying to say I'm uber talented, I just love the idea of writing the League. I've already got a couple of ideas forming in my head for story concepts. I won't say much, but I will say one thing; for every force of good in the universe, there are three forces ready to throw down with it. From demons to aliens, to just every day madmen, the League will be ready to take them on when ever, and where ever.
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Post by HoM on Jun 16, 2007 15:16:13 GMT -5
With a talented team of Mike, Dave and Brian by my side... Justice League is quite simply going to rock if you, the readers, allow us to go forward with it. 'Nuff Said.
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Post by Mr Clown on Jun 16, 2007 18:27:54 GMT -5
Yeah, and go read HoM's new series Dr Occult to. He rocks the house down with his style. Oh and, everyone go Pick a Villain while your at it. |
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Post by Crow on Jun 16, 2007 19:42:43 GMT -5
I was sure which way to go on this, but alas, I've chosen no...
I wouldn't mind a new team book, but why make them both Justice League books? Why not make a new team?
I had some of Ramon's concerns as well because we have a lot of projects going on and saying "We'll get help down the line" is not a sure bet; what if any of the current talent has to take a hiatus? All those new people will be doing is filling the former's positions and responsibilities.
Besides these issues, I have little else in concerns besides the project itself. The talent writing these books I trust: don't get me wrong. I know Dave, Charlie, and Mike can pound out good stories to make our toes curl...okay, weird phrase for this, but you get my point. But I kinda hate having two teams around with the same name because it makes me feel like the project is a gimmick, unless the premises are very unique.
JL Elite and JLA was cool for me when they both ran (as far as premises go) because the original was based on the big cosmic/national/worldly issues that the nice and clean JLA faced, while the Elite was for the shadowy, shady characters (though I have to admit Kelly made it cosmic eventually). I feel the same for the premises of New Avengers and Mighty Avengers. Not saying any of these stories were particularly great, that's not the matter; but the premises were different enough. But using the X-Teams as an example, we have several team books which do have different premises but most of the books are superfluous.
Anyways, that's my long winded answer. If it passes, I hope that the two books are different enough in essence: not just two books using the popular name of Justice League. Otherwise, I'll change my vote to yes.
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Post by Mischief on Jun 17, 2007 5:22:51 GMT -5
I said NAY, and I'll stick to me gun...er...I meant to my decision. I will not John Kerry it.
This is some exciting stuff. The Vote now is 11-10 in favor of two League title.
This is the people speaking. Democracy at its finest.
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Post by HoM on Jun 17, 2007 6:11:34 GMT -5
actually, it's 12 - 9, remember?
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Post by Mischief on Jun 17, 2007 6:30:05 GMT -5
Oh yeah Ramon pulled a John Kerry, after Dave did some hustling.  But the vote in this poll shows 11-10. Which is reflective peoples' first vote. The vote was cast. But that is just my opinion and please don't get offended people. COME PEOPLE, TIME TO VOTE, LET YOU VOICE BE HEARD
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Post by HoM on Jun 17, 2007 8:03:27 GMT -5
(12-9)
--- The factually correct House Of Mystery AKA Me.
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Post by Mr Clown on Jun 17, 2007 9:55:16 GMT -5
Yeah, Ramon didn't have all the facts when he made his vote. When he found out that there were writers prepared to do both titles, and Idle was ready to do the editting, his concerns were pretty much dealt with. And Crow, you get an exalt even if you voted no. That was just a really wicked complement about the creative teams going into this. |
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Post by Crow on Jun 17, 2007 10:53:39 GMT -5
Well, even if the "nay" doesn't pass, at least concerns were voiced, which is the very most important part of this process...
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Post by Crow on Jun 17, 2007 11:35:25 GMT -5
And thanks Michael! I just saw the comment lol
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Post by Mr Clown on Jun 17, 2007 13:24:26 GMT -5
A thank you for a thank you? Alright lol And don't worry about the concerns, if the titles do get launched; I think I can speak for the rest of the writers on this when I say we'll do our best with every story we write. If we can't change all of your minds by the second issue, I blame Charlie. |
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