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Post by HoM on Jul 3, 2008 5:18:45 GMT -5
Wow. Ok.  |
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Post by HoM on Jul 5, 2008 7:33:44 GMT -5
Anyone else psyched about tonight's episode?!
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"THIS IS MY ULTIMATE VICTORY! THE DESTRUCTION OF REALITY ITSELF!"
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Post by Admin on Jul 5, 2008 17:25:39 GMT -5
Anyone else psyched about tonight's episode?! Well, I was eager to watch it, more to see the resolution of last week's cliffhanger which I thought would be tricky to resolve either way. As it was, it's probably been the best episode so far. I'd say more but I'm wary of giving out spoilers. |
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Post by HoM on Jul 5, 2008 17:26:14 GMT -5
Called it. Not as fulfilling as the the finales to two and three (those actually tugged on the heart strings) but still effective. 65 minutes of proper class, but still, lacking something. Lot of resolution to a lot of stuff, spanning back to Episode Two of the first series, and anyone familiar with Torchwood will get what I'm talking about. Anyway. It was ok. At least I didn't cry like I did for two.  |
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Post by HoM on Jul 5, 2008 17:27:43 GMT -5
Though Mark, that scene in the Crucible? With everyone going kind of pantomime? That really bugged me. You get what I'm talking about? Kind of ruined any dramatic tension they had going.
I'm glad Ianto lived though. Phew! And do you think those two will be the new members for the six episode Torchwood series next year?
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Post by Admin on Jul 5, 2008 17:46:43 GMT -5
Not as fulfilling as the the finales to two and three (those actually tugged on the heart strings) but still effective. Well, personally, the finale of three didn't work for me for a number of reasons (fairly Doctor-lite, The Doctor as messiah figure, big reset button), so I much preferred this year's closer (admittedly it didn't tug at the heartstrings as much as two's finale but it still had a certain pathos going for it). |
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Post by Admin on Jul 5, 2008 17:59:46 GMT -5
Though Mark, that scene in the Crucible? With everyone going kind of pantomime? That really bugged me. You get what I'm talking about? Kind of ruined any dramatic tension they had going. Well, it was a bit pantomime, but that didn't really bother me (I was more bothered by how ineffectual The Doctor was in those scenes; maybe the real reason he picks up companions is so that they can save him in the season finales). Well, it looked that way. |
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Post by HoM on Jul 5, 2008 18:23:31 GMT -5
Not as fulfilling as the the finales to two and three (those actually tugged on the heart strings) but still effective. Well, personally, the finale of three didn't work for me for a number of reasons (fairly Doctor-lite, The Doctor as messiah figure, big reset button), so I much preferred this year's closer (admittedly it didn't tug at the heartstrings as much as two's finale but it still had a certain pathos going for it). Oh, I hated all those things you mentioned, but the thing that tugged my heart strings was the death of The Master, merely because of the sheer emotion and desperation in The Doctor's voice when he's begging him to regenerate. |
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Post by HoM on Jul 5, 2008 18:25:05 GMT -5
Though Mark, that scene in the Crucible? With everyone going kind of pantomime? That really bugged me. You get what I'm talking about? Kind of ruined any dramatic tension they had going. Well, it was a bit pantomime, but that didn't really bother me (I was more bothered by how ineffectual The Doctor was in those scenes; maybe the real reason he picks up companions is so that they can save him in the season finales). It was when they were pushing them about. It was just... Distracting. Loved the instant resolution at the beginning of the episode though, that was clever. |
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Post by HoM on Jul 6, 2008 8:02:44 GMT -5
For those of you that are interested, the penultimate moments of Season Three:
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Post by brigante133 on Jul 6, 2008 12:21:02 GMT -5
wait, doctor what?
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Post by HoM on Jan 3, 2009 13:23:17 GMT -5
The 11th Doctor has just been announced. LinkI am... hmm. I think that he has to be fantastic else they wouldn't have chosen him, but I've seen nothing of him yet so I don't want to make my judgments. I really wanted Patterson Joseph, but hey, what can you do? So yeah, he will either be brilliant or my GOD will he think and die. |
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Post by Fantômas on Jan 3, 2009 14:13:52 GMT -5
Steven Moffat taking over from Russell T Davies as the brain behind everything Who-related. Think this is a good thing. Like Davies, homosexual atheist that he is, but think Who got dull recently. Liked Martha, but the majority of her episodes were poor. Disliked Donna, and none of her episodes were good. Moffat was behind Blink, Empty Child/Doctor Dances...essentially the very best things to ever come out of Doctor Who. So promising. They'd best get Torchwood back on track. More in the vein of the cannibal farmers and less in the vein of Who-cloning. Needs to act like an adult show, as opposed to being Who but with the occasional token swearing or sexual deviance. Go further, go more gritty realism with sci-fi undertones. I really wanted Patterson Joseph, but hey, what can you do? ...wait, seriously? |
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Post by HoM on Jan 3, 2009 14:24:10 GMT -5
Think this is a good thing. Like Davies, homosexual atheist that he is, but think Who got dull recently. Liked Martha, but the majority of her episodes were poor. Disliked Donna, and none of her episodes were good. "Homosexual atheist"? Hmm. No, I loved Martha's character, and I quite enjoyed a lot of her episodes, and her finale was spot on, the Master? Brilliant. That three part finale was just... wonderful. I began to dislike Donna, but as the episodes progressed I realised, yes, she was the Doctor's best mate, and the finale of her run was heartbreaking! I guess these characters are all based on personal preference though. Moffat was behind Blink, Empty Child/Doctor Dances...essentially the very best things to ever come out of Doctor Who. So promising. Not to mention The Girl in the Fireplace and the bloody insane two parter Silence in the Library and Forest of the Dead, which has me squealing with delight. As that story unfurled it was just... brilliant. Especially the children reveal. Woof. I really wanted Patterson Joseph, but hey, what can you do? ...wait, seriously? Yeah, seriously, why? |
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Post by David on Jan 3, 2009 14:39:18 GMT -5
Some of my best friends are homosexuals and atheists.
For the record.
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Post by theyallfalldown on Jan 3, 2009 15:28:48 GMT -5
Steven Moffat taking over from Russell T Davies as the brain behind everything Who-related. Think this is a good thing. Like Davies, homosexual atheist that he is, but think Who got dull recently. Liked Martha, but the majority of her episodes were poor. Disliked Donna, and none of her episodes were good. Moffat was behind Blink, Empty Child/Doctor Dances...essentially the very best things to ever come out of Doctor Who. So promising. They'd best get Torchwood back on track. More in the vein of the cannibal farmers and less in the vein of Who-cloning. Needs to act like an adult show, as opposed to being Who but with the occasional token swearing or sexual deviance. Go further, go more gritty realism with sci-fi undertones. I really wanted Patterson Joseph, but hey, what can you do? ...wait, seriously? I just need to ask why you needed ti make the distinction that davies is a homosexual and an athiest? why no distinction when it comes to moffat?straight jew or whatever that he is? Kinda seems ignorant that you needed to distinguish this? |
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Post by arcalian on Jan 3, 2009 16:05:11 GMT -5
He's neither who I wanted, who I expected, or who I didn't want. So I'm ambivalent. But I have great faith in Moffat. So I am more than willing to give Smith a chance. Just, please, man, stay longer than David did. Please.
To my mind, there are things RTD got right, and things RTD got wrong. Most people either seem to love him or hate him, to me he was just "eh". Moffat, I think, will be awesome. I hope Matt Smith is too.
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Post by lissilambe on Jan 3, 2009 16:09:43 GMT -5
David gave us three seasons, basically. A solid, average run of the Doctor. I'd like to have seen him stay, but I'm good with his run.
I don't know about Smith. I'll give him a chance, because there's not yet been a bad Doctor acted (maybe badly written, but the actors have all been solid when given the material). But I really looked forward to Paterson Joseph, he looked like he would be great. Smith's got lots to live up to, of course, and now he has the road not traveled to battle too.
Moffat in charge though? Potentially sheer win. Being the man in charge might change his product, without other controls on him, but I have faith we'll get a great new era.
Take care
Don
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Post by Brandon on Jan 3, 2009 23:49:07 GMT -5
After watching the Confidential interview I think the new guy can pull it off. I can see him as the Doctor, but wow.... 26 years old?! That's the only bit that I'm getting hung up on so far. When I saw him though my first thought was that he reminded me of Peter Davison. And for whatever it's worth, I have a number of gay and lesbian friends (more than you'd think seeing as I live way out here on the Bible Belt buckle) but being the agnostic that I am I think most of them attend church on a more regular basis than I do.  |
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Post by Fantômas on Jan 5, 2009 8:24:35 GMT -5
Mmm. See your points. More making the distinction for the fact that he is both of these things and actively champions them through the programme. Through having a large number of sexually liberated characters in the more obvious sense, and through more subtle nods such as the inclusion of Richard Dawkins for a cameo.
I think it's a very healthy thing to have. The future Captain Jack suggests, ie, one where sexual classifications like 'gay' or 'straight' are largely out-dated, would be a very good thing indeed.
I make the distinction because they are quite integral to Davies' contribution to the series as a whole. It has made it very liberal, very ground-breaking, and encourages the younger generations to take a more open-minded approach.
If he were a homosexual atheist that never touched upon either issue particularly notably I certainly wouldn't have mentioned it.
M'kay? I certainly wasn't using the terms in a derogatory fashion. I have no issue with homosexuality, and I am atheist myself. Apologies if that wasn't clear.
On a slightly different note, what would DC2 have thought about Jennifer Saunders being the Doctor?
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Post by HoM on Jan 5, 2009 10:02:05 GMT -5
Thought about? Been there, seen it.
I want to know why you apparently have a problem with my wanting to see Patterson Joseph as the Doctor! Ha!
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Post by Fantômas on Jan 5, 2009 10:13:48 GMT -5
Just... no. For me he will always, and I mean always, be Simon on Numberwang. |
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Post by HoM on Jan 5, 2009 10:20:06 GMT -5
Or JOHNSON!
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Post by HoM on Jan 5, 2009 10:20:59 GMT -5
Though I agree with a lot of people when they say that Neverwhere was an extended audition for Patterson as the Doctor. Marquis De Carabas? Proto-Doctor.
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Post by Fantômas on Jan 5, 2009 10:34:42 GMT -5
Neverwhere...hmm...brief Wikipedian investigation...
"Neverwhere is an urban fantasy television series by Neil Gaiman that first aired in 1996 on BBC Two. The series is set in "London Below", a magical realm coexisting with the more familiar London, referred to as "London Above". It was devised by Neil Gaiman and Lenny Henry, and directed by Dewi Humphreys."
How did I not see this? Why have I not seen this? That sounds incredible. Neil Gaiman and Lenny Henry?
Damn.
Need more new Torchwood. With more morbid obsessive exploration of death as a theme. And more Blowfish aliens. And more Victorian-age Captain Jack Harkness.
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Post by Brandon on Jan 5, 2009 10:45:11 GMT -5
There are some grumblings online about the BBC not being more daring with the new Who, but I'm happy with the choice. There is something about the Doctor that is just inherently 'white British guy'. I know he regenerates and all that and that it would be mega-buzzworthy for the franchise if he suddenly popped up female or of another ethnicity, but it would make about as much sense to me as say a sudden switch to a Spanish accent. I'm all for pushing the boundaries and I think the show has done a commendable job on that so far, but trying too hard wouldn't really help that along. Big thanks to RTD for making the show a hit and here's hoping Moffat can take it even farther.
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Post by Fantômas on Jan 7, 2009 16:26:13 GMT -5
...are we happy that I'm not a homophobe who dislikes atheists, by the by?
I would hate people to think that. :/
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